Viewpoint: Church Needs New Language in Explaining Its Teaching on Sexuality

by Msgr. M. Francis Mannion

The recent Extraordinary Synod of Bishops convened at the Vatican to discuss the challenges facing the family today was, if the media be heeded, a gathering to discuss primarily sexual morality.

Yet, the issues of ministry to homosexuals, Communion for those in invalid marriages, and cohabitation kept coming to the fore not because the bishops planned for this, but because these are today hot-button issues that could not be avoided.

As I followed the Synod through the daily communications it produced and the commentaries of experts, I was particularly taken by the conviction of many bishops that the Church needs a new language when it speaks about sexual morality.

Fr. Thomas Rosica, a liaison for English-speaking journalists stated: โ€œLanguage appeared, many, many times. . . .Thereโ€™s a great desire that our language has to change in order to meet the very complex situationsโ€ that people face.

One bishop, whom Rosica did not identify, told the assembled bishops that โ€œlanguage such as โ€˜living in sin,โ€™ โ€˜intrinsically disorderedโ€™ [the traditional language use for homosexual acts], or โ€˜contraceptive mentalityโ€™ are not necessarily words that invite people to draw closer to Christ and the Church.โ€

Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin repeated this theme when he said: โ€œTo many, the language of the Church appears to be a disincarnated language of telling people what to do, a one-way dialogue.โ€ He continued: โ€œThe lived experience and struggle of spouses can help find more effective ways of expression of the fundamental elements of Church teaching.โ€

Even the โ€œconservativeโ€ Archbishop Andre Vingt-Trois of Paris, a strong supporter of the status quo regarding sexual morality, stated that the Church must find โ€œnew modes of expression and modes of communication that will allow it to announce the good news so that it may be heard.โ€

Cardinal Walter Kasper, former president of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity (and said to be the favorite theologian of Pope Francis) had become something of a lightning-rod because of a talk he gave to the College of Cardinals before the Synod which proposed that the Church should make it easier for divorced Catholics in a second marriage without an annulment to receive Communion at Mass. He argued that โ€œthe traditional description of such couples as practicing โ€˜perpetual adulteryโ€™ is not pastorally acceptable. If you tell people who live in this way and they do so in a responsible way that they are living in adultery, permanent adultery, I think they would feel offended and insulted. We must be very careful . . . in our language.โ€

Bishop Johann Bonny of Antwerp wrote a widely circulated letter to the Synod (although he himself was not a participant). He argued that couples living together outside of marriage, using [artificial] contraception, or resorting to in vitro fertilization (all activities prohibited by the Church) โ€œdeserve more respect and a more nuanced evaluation than the language of certain Church documents appear to prescribe. The mechanisms of accusation and exclusion . . . can only block the way to evangelization.โ€

What may we expect when the Synod of Bishops reconvenes in 2015? I expect the emergence of a unified consensus on the issues of the Synod that just ended. While there will be no doctrinal changes, there will hopefully emerge positive strategies for dealing pastorally with difficult issues regarding marriage and sexuality.

As has often occurred in the Church in the past in dealing with pastoral matters, the next Synod may take two steps forward and one step backwards–a realistic expectation for a Church that thinks in centuries.

 

Msgr. Mannion is pastor emeritus of St. Vincent de Paul Catholic Church in Salt Lake City. Reprinted by permission of Catholic News Agency.

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39 responses to “Viewpoint: Church Needs New Language in Explaining Its Teaching on Sexuality”

  1. Scott Pluff

    Leaders in the Catholic Church have long wrung their hands over sins of lust. At least in appearance, this is far and away the highest priority of the church’s moral teaching. Why no such stern pronouncements and condemnations over sins of gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, or pride?

  2. Fr. Jack Feehily

    There can be little doubt that lust has led many individuals and couples, married and unmarried, same and opposite sex attracted to ruin. But we shouldn’t let that fact and the moral rules related to it lead us to just dismiss and condemn those having lustful sex inside or outside valid marriages. From inside the popular culture, such a condemnation is viewed as off the wall, the kind of thing one would expect to hear from celibate men who claim to have no experience of sexual behavior or relationships. And then there is denial, a powerful force that can prevent people from seeing clearly from inside their experience.
    I know of three pre-teens who are powerfully attracted to Internet porn and masturbation. These are kids who’ ve never heard a parent speak of sexual feelings much less how to contend with them. The same parents want me as a church authority to simply tell them that these are gravely wrong and sinful deeds. I can make that clear but only within the context of speaking sensitively and age appropriately about sexual feelings and their purpose. I like the thrust of Fr. mannion’s article, we need new language based on finding the humility to speak of our own experience, strength, and hope.

  3. Archbishop Kurtz’s talk at yesterdays bishops’ meeting struck me. It’s not just about the language, but about fashioning genuine companionship:

    “When Iโ€™d come to someoneโ€™s home, I wouldnโ€™t start by telling them how Iโ€™d rearrange their furniture. In the same way, I wouldnโ€™t begin by giving them a list of rules to follow.

    Instead Iโ€™d first spend time with them, trying to appreciate the good that I saw in their hearts. Iโ€™d acknowledge that, like them, I was in the process of conversion toward greater holiness. I would then invite them to follow Christ and Iโ€™d offer to accompany them as we, together, follow the Gospel invitation to turn from sin and journey along the way.”

    When people in the Church cease interacting with people as if we have all the answers, and they’re the stupid ones who need us, we might make some progress. As a musician, I like the word “accompaniment.” It implies a disciple who supports others, and encourages their lives to flower. As an accompanist, I strive less for technical achievement and more to play to draw out the best in the singer or solo instrument.

  4. Aaron Sanders

    Does it not strike anyone as curious that one might take advice on effective evangelization from the bishops who have been, judging from their diocesan statistics, among the less successful evangelists of our day? Bishops who are leaders within national churches all generally recognized to be in decline and disarray? Dublin has declined by ca. 4.5% of the general population under Abp. Martin, Antwerp by ca. 5% under Bp. Bonny. Kasper may have been out of diocesan service for some time, so his stats will be less pertinent, but the German bishops who adhere to the ‘Kasperite thesis’ are hemhorraging membership.

    It very well be that perspicuity in teaching is now often received as off-putting bluntness. That wasn’t the case in the New Testament era (plenty of ‘offensive’ preaching in those Scriptures!) but I grant that simply telling people the clinical truth (“perpetual adultery” is precisely the situation into which the ‘remarried’ have inserted themselves) will not register well. But I highly doubt that Martin, Bonny, et al. have indeed been using this language in their ministry, and they are still failing. Demonstrably.

    So instead of just heeding the recommendations of this group of bishops, I suggest we chart a way forward that includes the following:
    1) establish how the ‘Kasperite’ bishops have been trying to evangelize and do something DIFFERENT THAN THAT!
    2) identify the ‘best practices’ of bishops whose churches are in fact GROWING, and see if those might translate into greater success back home.

    Again, it very well may be that those successful bishops are using different language. I would just like to hear it from the successful horse’s mouth.

  5. Sean Whelan

    They’re too busy blaming secular society on the decline in church attendance. They just don’t get it. It’s truly pathetic.

  6. Alan Johnson

    We had a pastoral letter from our bishop on Sunday, reflecting on those bits of the synod. His message – nothing has changed, its still all about sin and repentance and the warfare society is waging on marriage. It left members of the congregation shaking their heads in sorrow at the end of mass.
    The headline in the local newspaper was “Catholic bishop of xxxx calls on the church to reject gay people.” I fully understand that newspapers need to sell copies, but the kind of language used in the pastoral letter left him wide open to that interpretation.
    In response to the previous post this diocese is engaged in a program of parish closures and mergers because of the plummeting numbers.

    1. Aaron Sanders

      @Alan Johnson – comment #6:

      They say that correlation does not equal causation, and in this case we don’t even have correlation – bishops with soft talk on marriage are seeing decline, your bishop with tough talk is also seeing decline. One possible interpretation would be that the breakdown in evangelization is not attributable to the style of language. I do happen to think our ways of speaking will factor in, but it’s just one more reason why we ought to identify specific differences marking out proven success as opposed to asking the least successful what they believe to be the problem. If they really had identified the problem, we might expect, after all, that they already would have begun to see a turnaround since changing their practices to accord with this new insight.

  7. Alan Johnson

    Maybe we need to clarify exactly how our news is good. Banging on about the sexual aspect of relationships to the virtual exclusion of everything else comes across as just a bit repulsive to many. Not so much good news as “oh dear!”

  8. Fr. Jack Feehily

    Taking swipes at stats associated with particular bishops may provide some passing pleasure but doesn’t really address the issue raised by Fr. Mannion’s comments. It would be similar to pointing out that the vast number of sexually abusing clergy were raised in the pre-Vatican II era so it must have been due to the unreformed church.

  9. Jordan Zarembo

    Part of the difficulty with a Church-wide discussion on sexuality is the reality that the conservative/traditionalist contingent will simply not countenance anything they perceive as change or a threat of change, even exploratory discussions within the context of a synod.

    Eventually, the Church will have to refine its philosophical language on homosexuality. The status quo is untenable, as some prelates have openly stated. The current language is incomprehensible or even abusive to people today. “Intrinsically disordered” has been a disaster for gay people, as the term carries an extremely negative insinuation that the entire person is inherently defective, “damaged goods” so to say. Despite the failure of this philosophical-theological definition, any minute change to this hot button will be taken as a betrayal by the conservative/traditionalist camp. This camp will lose a significant amount of trust in Pope Francis and his office.

    The final question arises: can the Church find a different way to discuss sexuality without a formal schism, however small, from the liturgical and moral theological right? The answer, I predict, is no.

  10. Brendan Kelleher SVD

    Fr Mannion is going in the right direction. We don’t have the language to speak about sex, sexuality and gender to the young today. And it is even more difficult outside of the West. The language used in Europe and the US has very little echo here in the Far East – Japan, as I have found in living here for almost 40 years and teaching in High School for almost 20 of those.
    As to Aaron Sanders swipes at Abp Martin, I was in formation in Ireland in the 70’s, and from my apostolic and pastoral experience in those days, both in rural and urban Ireland, many of us noted how those in their 30’s and 40’s were already distancing themselves from the Church. They are the parents and grandparents of those who now distance themselves; the Abp of Dublin in those days was an old school “cultural warrior” who brooked no questioning.

  11. Sean Whelan

    I don’t wish to go off on a tangent – but when did the USCCB get like this? This was the same body that produced pastoral letters such as Brothers and Sisters to us and Economic Justice for All?

    And how is it we have really NO ONE among the bishops bringing attention to this? At least with the impending disaster of Roman Missal III, there was Trautman. Where is ONE bishop rallying for the poor, vulnerable, and downtrodden? You know, things JESUS did.

    1. Reyanna Rice

      @Sean Whelan – comment #12:
      My bishop, George Leo Thomas of Helena, Montana, tried a couple of years ago to move the USCCB to develop a statement on poverty issues and was ignored. It is all about the culture wars with these men, almost all of them appointees of JP2 and B16, who appointed only bishops who could tick off the right answer to a series of questions. Many are the bishops this country got from the time that Crd Burke was sitting on the Congregation of Bishops. They pretty much were Yes men of the last two papacies. Under Francis, they don’t know how to think on their own. The USCCB is one of the most conservative groups of bishops in the world. Papa Francesco has his work cut out for him trying to work with these men in moving the church forward.

  12. Alan Johnson

    But why focus on the sexual element of relationships at all? There are so many other aspects that could brought to the fore.
    It feels like the murky obsessions of celibate old men, and in my opinion debases the discussion.

    1. Jim McKay

      @Alan Johnson – comment #14:

      +1

      Hopefully these synods will provide a language that describes marriage in broader terms than genital activity. Such things should never take precedence over caring for one another and for others.

  13. Cathy Wattebot

    A good article, and we should be grateful that Archbishop Andrรฉ Vingt-Trois is now reflecting on use of language. This is the bishop who caused the launch of La Comitรฉ de la Jupe (http://comitedelajupe.fr) promoting women in the catholic church in 2008 by his remark “Ce qui est plus difficile c’est d’avoir des femmes qui soient formรฉes, le tout ce n’est pas d’avoir une jupe, c’est d’avoir quelque chose dans la tรชte” (The harder thing is formation of women – the point is not to have a skirt, but to have something in one’s head.) The Skirt Committee continues to be a lively presence, and the Spirit blows where she will.

  14. Mgr Bruce Harbert

    As so often, Mgr Mannion has hit the nail on the head. But I part company with him on one point. We don’t need a new language for talking about human relationships, but rather an old language. We need to rediscover aspects of Catholic tradition. I am thinking particularly of the concept of ‘amicitia’, friendship, which for Aquinas embraces our relationships with our own sex, the opposite sex (including the marital relationship) and God. Currently we tend to separate these, and thus to lose sight of a central human theme, which is our search for love, which only God can fully satisfy.

    1. @Mgr Bruce Harbert – comment #17:
      Agreed on the meanings behind the old language. But we’re going to need Latin translators far more capable than the ones who have haunted the halls of the Vatican the past 16 years. I shudder to think of how they would treat amicitia.

  15. Jim Pauwels

    Many thanks to Todd Flowerday for that quote from Bishop Kurtz’s talk. It seems to me that Kurtz isn’t talking here about a new language so much as a better pastoral approach. Bishop Bonny’s point as summarized by Mannion seems similar.

    To be sure, communicating in words that are used commonly and can be correctly understood by someone who doesn’t have a background in the church’s intellectual tradition is another aspect of a better pastoral approach.

    And an expedited and less expensive annulment process would be yet another aspect of a better pastoral approach.

    If Mannion is right that no doctrinal development will flow from the synod, then we are looking at the possibility of clothing the same teachings in more approachable words. We can file all of these things under the heading, “Meeting people where they are – and inviting them to conversion”.

  16. Changing the language won’t help with evangelizing as long as the message behind the words stays the same. The problem is that the teachings themselves are rejected, not that the teachings are too baldly stated.

    1. @crystal watson – comment #20:
      But if people are content to disagree with / reject the Church’s teaching on any manner of subject (whether it be about ordination, sexuality, abortion, euthanasia, pornography, divorce, Christ’s nature, or any other topic), and still present themselves for Communion, and still consider themselves to be Catholic, why should the Church feel the need to change what she teaches about sexuality?

      The people who disagree with the change will either leave the Church or remain in the Church as the new dissenters; the people who agree with the change will either enter the Church or remain outside her (either until she changes another one of her teachings to suit them, or because they see no need to enter her, anyway, they just know she needs to adjust her teachings). So, would there be a net gain of souls? Would the benefits outweigh the damages?

      1. Jim McKay

        @Jeffrey Pinyan – comment #24:

        Is this an acceptable ecclesiology? The Church is a place for those who believe correctly? Or behave correctly?

        IMO the Church is a place for everyone, saint and sinner. The more the Church shows that to the world, the better it is. It may mean fewer people choose to associate with the Church, but it is still better to present a face of mercy. And the more the Church is seen as an exclusive club, the worse it is for all. Even if everyone is clamoring to join he club, no one really meets the standards.

        The Synod began with a story of parents conflicted about having their gay son come home for Christmas. “He is our son” led to a solution. “Your brother, who was lost, has come to life again; who was lost, has been found.”

      2. @Jim McKay – comment #25:
        The Church is a place for everyone (even, for example, those who want to worship according to a 50-years-removed liturgical form, or those who practice simony, or those who insist the pope is antichrist and that the Eucharist is simply and only bread). But the Church also has a faith, a body of belief, to which all of us sinners who desire to be disciples of Christ are urged to adhere. Jesus gave his apostles the mandate to baptize new disciples and to teach those new disciples to observe his commandments.

  17. And let’s be clear about what is teaching and what is practice. Barring remarried Catholics from Communion is not doctrine. It is a particular interpretation of Scripture and tradition. It is not applied to all sins thought to be gravely serious in the early Church.

    Some people may well be scandalized at the thought of sinners approaching the sacraments. That can be discerned also. Are people “looking” for scandal in the sense of search-and-destroy, or are they truly confronted with people who are abusing the sacraments? Some of us might say that the public celebration of Mass by some bishops is gravely scandalous. And who is prepared to argue against that?

    The bottom line is what accomplishes holiness in seekers, believers, and disciples. God is not offended, clearly, by seeking out lost sheep and tending their wounds. Are people really asking for permission to commit serial monogamy? I don’t think so. Are many people in second marriages really committing adultery? I don’t think so.

    1. Scott Smith

      @Todd Flowerday – comment #21:

      Barring remarried Catholics from Communion is not doctrine. It is a particular interpretation of Scripture and tradition.

      What on earth do you think a doctrine is, other than an interpretation of Scripture and Tradition regarding faith and/or morals, definitively proposed by the Church?

  18. Doctrine is not the only way to interpret. Telling remarried Catholics not to present themselves for the sacraments tells us nothing of faith. It says nothing of their faith, and indeed: it may not support faith. It is a practice, an administrative policy. It is a significant one, to be sure. But it is derivative of Saint Paul’s teaching on worthy reception of Communion. And it may not reflect accurately the morality of people involved in every case.

  19. Fr. Jack Feehily

    The problem with the church’s teachings about sexuality is that they were largely formulated prior to significant developments in our knowledge about anthropology, biology, cosmology, and psychology. As a result sexual acts are examined apart from the human context in which they actually occur. Is it any wonder that same sex attracted individuals perceive the condemnation of homosexual acts as a condemnation of something they experience as an extension of who they are. The bible assumes that everyone is opposite sex attracted because God made them “male and female”. Of course it would be immoral for opposite sex attracted individuals to indulge temptations to engage in same sex acts. But if there are, in fact, individuals who have only known SSA, shouldn’t they be encouraged to move beyond auto-eroticism and promiscuity to seek stable, loving and faithful relationships? Is there any future in telling single people (OSA or SSA) that the only moral option for them outside heterosexual marriage is abstinence? Shifting a little, we know that there is wide support among believers and unbelievers alike against marital infidelity and against engaging in sex within families or with minors. But eyebrows are raised everywhere upon learning that the Catholic Church places the immorality of those acts on the same plain with masturbation, intercourse by couples who were civilly divorced and remarried, and sexual acts by people who are SSA. We don’t just need a new language, but a rethinking of how we do moral theology.

    1. @Fr. Jack Feehily – comment #27:
      a rethinking of how we do moral theology

      Is that, to a degree, or substantially? Do you mean to consider more gradations in sexual matters in moral theology, or changes to the moral theology in sexual matters?

      To play devil’s advocate…

      You mention sex within families. Why is that really such a bad thing, so long as it is consensual, especially if contraception is the default practice? And sex with (or among) minors, if it is consensual, and especially if contraception is the default?

      If people with SSA “perceive the condemnation of homosexual acts as a condemnation of something they experience as an extension of who they are,” and thus we need to re-approach the moral theological approach to the issue, will we also have to adjust our stance on masturbation, because of a person who perceives the condemnation of masturbatory acts as a condemnation of something he or she experiences as an extension of him- or herself? What must we say to the person who engages in prostitution (or any form of serial fornication) and sees it simply as an extension of who him- or herself?

      1. @Jeffrey Pinyan – comment #30:
        I’ll tussle with the devil on this …

        There is a problem with sex with or among minors because of the emotional immaturity of the persons involved. The sexual act is intended as an expression between equals and for the support and comfort of such persons. Sex isn’t about one’s personal expression and meaning–that would be how much of society might view it.

        Where your argument runs off the rails is the unspoken assumption that sexual affection between two people who might have the genetic make-up and God-given drive for SSA is necessarily an expression in narcissism.

        What can a child offer an adult? Being a sex object. What can a prostitute offer? The person who is a submissive? The same. What can minors offer one another? Not much more than experimentation at best, and an objectivization in the situation where one is more mature or manipulative.

        Fr Jack’s input is worth considering seriously. The model of sex as given by Aristotle/Aquinas does not jive with how God made human beings. Knock out the underpinnings, and what do we have? Language that doesn’t make sense. Circular reasoning. An invitation to tune out absolutely. Tuning out is a sign of a woefully ineffective evangelization. Then the problem’s on us, wouldn’t you think?

      2. @Todd Flowerday – comment #31:
        I don’t see where the “experience of something that is an extension of who they are” is an expression of narcissism; I’d rather frame it as an expression of identity. Is being true to one’s self narcissism, or integrity?

        On the matter of sex as “an expression between equals and [of] support and comfort”, society will need a lot of convincing on that.

  20. Jeffrey,
    “But if people are content to disagree with / reject the Churchโ€™s teaching on any manner of subject (whether it be about ordination, sexuality, abortion, euthanasia, pornography, divorce, Christโ€™s nature, or any other topic), and still present themselves for Communion, and still consider themselves to be Catholic, why should the Church feel the need to change what she teaches about sexuality?”

    Sure, people disagree and still stay in the church, ignoring what they disbelieve, but what that means is a continuing and growing chasm between the hierarchy/teachings of the church and the faithful. And we aren’t talking about a few dissenters … polls and surveys show that about 90% of Catholics use contraception, a very high percentage have premarital sex, a majority think same sex relationships/marriage are ok, and Catholics keep getting divorced but only about 15% of those divorced ever even apply for an annulment.

    That is a sign of failure, and not a failure of the laity but of the teachings. It’s a sign of the irrelevance of the teachings to people’s lived lives. And people go on to live their spiritual lives as personal because of it.

    1. @crystal watson – comment #28:
      a continuing and growing chasm between the hierarchy/teachings of the church and the faithful

      I could ask what makes a person a member of the “faithful” of an organization, if it is not adherence to its faith, but I’m not sure that would be a fruitful conversation.

      That is a sign of failure, and not a failure of the laity but of the teachings.

      You’ve omitted, I noticed, the 100% of the faithful who lie, the 100% of the faithful who do not honor their parents, and the 100% of the faithful who steal. Is that a failure of the laity, or of the teachings? Or are those teachings — against dishonesty, dishonor, and theft — so universal (or at least, not exclusive to the Catholic Church) that we can assume they are actually good teachings, and that the fault in those regards is on us?

      Itโ€™s a sign of the irrelevance of the teachings to peopleโ€™s lived lives.

      It may very well be a sign of the irrelevance of the teachings to people’s lived lives, but to be Chestertonian about it, I think it just proves all the more the relevance of the teachings objectively. I find it terribly difficult to believe that God either never did, or doesn’t now, consider things like premarital sex to be sins. I mean, just how long has the Christian community been completely wrong and at odds with God about that?

  21. Jeffrey,
    “Youโ€™ve omitted, I noticed, the 100% of the faithful who lie, the 100% of the faithful who do not honor their parents, and the 100% of the faithful who steal. Is that a failure of the laity, or of the teachings?”

    The difference is that most people do believe with the church that lying and disrespecting their parents and stealing is wrong … it’s just that they cannot always be as good as they hope to be.

    But most do *not* believe with the church that gay relationships are intrinsically wrong, that premarital sex is always wrong, that ending a bad marriage is wrong.

    With the synod’s mention of mercy for people who fail to uphold the medieval sexual standard the church won’t let go of, the church is nuancing its response to perceived failure instead of nuancing its teachings (which have failed).

    1. Jim Pauwels

      @crystal watson – comment #33:

      “But most do *not* believe with the church that gay relationships are intrinsically wrong, that premarital sex is always wrong, that ending a bad marriage is wrong.”

      I don’t know how emphatically I would assert these. Pangs of conscience are not unknown for people in those situations, particularly regarding the last two. Do we attribute that to ill-formed consciences? If not, then what does it mean when a young woman wakes up in the morning and says, perhaps invoking the deity without much thought, “Oh, God! That was such a bad idea, what I did with him last night!”

      1. @Jim Pauwels – comment #34:
        I’ve also known good Catholics with pangs of “conscience” that they forsook religious life for marriage, and vice versa. Are these people wrong, sinful, or did they just second-guess themselves?

  22. ๐Ÿ™‚ Well, I’m also not saying that people believe that all sex outside marriage is good. What I’m saying is that the church’s idea that it’s always and ever wrong is thought by most to also be wrong.

    I saw an interesting past article by an Episcopal priest on the ok-ness of sex before marriage … http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-astrid-storm/students-of-christianity_b_94509.html

    Here’s just a bit of it …

    ” Jesus said nothing about premarital sex, period. As for Paul, whose writings make up much of the New Testament outside the Gospels, I had been taught that the word sometimes translated as “fornicate” (porneia), which Paul uses quite a lot, frequently refers to premarital sex — an assumption that’s common in conservative Christian writings on this topic. But in fact, Paul uses “fornicate” in myriad ways, and in only one verse — I Corinthians 7:9 — does it seem to refer to sex before marriage. Setting aside the fact that Paul was hardly referring here to two professional twenty-somethings living in a culture of birth control and later marriages, more careful reading of the Bible revealed that this verse appears in a chapter of Paul’s writing in which he is more deferential about what he’s saying than usual, adding disclaimers like “This is me speaking, and not the Lord,” or “This I say by way of concession and not demand.” It almost sounds as if he was fearful of reducing Jesus’ teachings to lessons on sexual propriety, like so many of his followers have since done. When Christians venture beyond Paul to support their argument against premarital sex, they’re also on shaky ground …”

  23. PS – to echo what Todd wrote about equality in relationships, this from the article …

    ” a framework for Christian sexual ethics that takes into account such changes in our culture as later marriages, increased sexual activity with lower risk of sexually-transmitted disease and pregnancy, and so on. Whether for sexual relationships inside or outside of marriage, various criteria have been suggested for such a framework — justice, vulnerability, reciprocity, sexual enjoyment, intimacy, community, and so on.”

  24. Jim McKay

    Jeffrey Pinyan : I could ask what makes a person a member of the โ€œfaithfulโ€ of an organization, if it is not adherence to its faith, but Iโ€™m not sure that would be a fruitful conversation.

    I think this is the core question in these discussions, though I am not sure that means such conversations will be fruitful. If membership depends on “adherence to its faith,” there will be one set of answers. If it depends on our rebirth in baptism, any answer will flow from “he is our son.”

    The latter perspective should help the defenders of the “traditional” doctrinal position recognize that withholding communion is a disciplinary issue, meant to help the disciple. As discipline, it is by definition pastoral, and not doctrinal.

    Can. 204 ยง1. The Christian faithful are those who, inasmuch as they have been incorporated in Christ through baptism, have been constituted as the people of God. For this reason, made sharers in their own way in Christโ€™s priestly, prophetic, and royal function, they are called to exercise the mission which God has entrusted to the Church to fulfill in the world, in accord with the condition proper to each.

  25. Alan Johnson

    Maybe I do well to remember that the church is somewhat larger and more diverse than an old Western Liberal like me.
    So maybe, when I talk of what the “church thinks” as opposed to what “official teaching” says, I need to be careful about what I am saying.


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