Voices from the Past: “Tridentine Mass Permission Criticized”

Recently an old article from Origins was sent to me.

In October 1984, Origins published an article titled: “Tridentine Mass Permission Criticized.” The article reproduces the resolutions put forward by the Congress of Presidents and Secretaries of National Liturgical Commissions held on Oct 23-28, 1984 at the Vatican. The congress strongly criticized the Congregation for Divine Worship for extending its permission for the limited usage of the “Tridentine Mass.”

At the congress, 32 representatives from the English-speaking episcopal conferences were present and “expressed ‘grave concern, regret and dismay’ regarding the recent permission.” The extension of the “Tridentine Mass,” according to the representatives, “appeared to be a movement away from the ecclesiology of Vatican II.” The representatives also questioned the reason for the expanded permission. They felt it ignored the concerns of the worldwide episcopate, “98 percent of whom responded to a 1980 survey that ‘this was not a problem in the church, but rather only the concern of a tiny minority’ (see Origins, vol. 11, pp. 556ff).”

The congress adopted 7 resolutions:

  1. They “unanimously resolved” that the CDW should be requested to convoke a plenaria gathered under the norms of Regimini Ecclesiae with the consulta called beforehand. It was also resolved that a yearly plenaria be suggested.
  2. “It was resolved that the Congregation for Divine Worship be informed of the grave concern, regret and dismay with which news of the letter of Oct. 3, 1984, concerning the concession of the missal of 1962 (“Tridentine Mass”) was received.” The congress gave four reasons for this position:
    1. “The concession appears to be a movement away from the ecclesiology of the Second Vatican Council.”
    2. “The indult seems to give support to those who have resisted the liturgical renewal.”
    3. Based on the 1980 survey of the episcopate they thought that “the concession seems to violate the collegial sense of the worldwide episcopate.”
    4. They criticized the ability of a local ordinary to allow the “Tridentine Mass” without “the approbatio of an episcopal conference [or] the confirmatio of the Apostolic See.”
  3. “It was unanimously resolved that a strong statement reaffirming the work of all those engaged in liturgical renewal according to the principles of Vatican II be respectfully requested of His Holiness Pope John Paul II.”
  4. “[T]he recent division of the Congregation of the Sacraments and Divine Worship posed a potential threat to the ongoing work of liturgical renewal because of a seeming return to a preconciliar understanding of the sacraments.” (Here it is important to note that between 1984-1988 the newly created Sacred Congregation for the Sacraments and Divine Worship was split in two, after having only been merged in 1975. The result was the Congregation for the Sacraments and the Congregation for Divine Worship.)
  5. The Congress also expressed concern about the lack of liturgical adaptation and inculturation. They advocated three points in this regard:
    1. The congregation should affirm §37-40 of Sacrosanctum Concilium.
    2. The congregation should respond to proposals concerning liturgical adaptation.
    3. The congregation should create “centers of liturgical experimentation and adaptation.”
  6. The congress also called for a more global body of consultors for the Congregation for Divine Worship.
  7. Lastly, they desired that the ministries outlined in Ministeria Quaedam “be open to all lay persons, men and women.”

It’s a lot to take in!

Summorum Pontificum and the disagreements surrounding the English translation of the Third Edition of the Roman Missal have shown how much the hierarchy has changed since 1984. The conferences of the English speaking world do not share the same viewpoint as their predecessors in the 1980’s, and current bishops who have similar concerns are not willing to expend their ecclesial-political capital on such controversial matters which have little prospect of success.

Those who want the “Tridentine Mass” surely still represent a minority of the Church; however, their number appears to be on the rise. Or, it might just be that they are more vocal, thanks in part to the number of sympathetic ears they have found in the hierarchy for the past decade.

The congress cut to the heart of the matter when it criticized the retrograde ecclesiology articled by the “Tridentine Mass” and the threat that the liberalizing of what we now call the Extraordinary Form poses to the entire reforming project of the Second Vatican Council.

It is crucial today that the Church and the hierarchy navigate a way out of the liturgical crises caused by the liberalizing of the Extraordinary Form. As we continue to unpack Vatican II, we must gather a myriad of diverse voices around the table. This includes those who hold varying opinions about the Extraordinary Form. Shifting demographics in the Church require us to reassess the direction of the reforms in ways which address the concerns of an increasingly diverse, non-Western, and at times divisive community.

We cannot abandon the reforming project begun at Vatican II. Course corrections are understandable, but not wholesale retrograde movements.

The Church has changed a lot since 1984. It is my hope that Pope Francis will create an ecclesial environment in which productive, honest, loving, and respectful dialogue can occur.

 

Nathan Chase

Nathan P. Chase is Assistant Professor of Liturgical and Sacramental Theology at Aquinas Institute of Theology in St. Louis, MO. He has contributed a number of articles to the field of liturgical studies, including pieces on liturgy in the early Church, initiation, the Eucharist, inculturation, and the Western Non-Roman Rites, in particular the Hispano-Mozarabic tradition. His first book The Homiliae Toletanae and the Theology of Lent and Easter was published in 2020. His second monograph, published in 2023, is titled The Anaphoral Tradition in the ‘Barcelona Papyrus.’

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21 responses to “Voices from the Past: “Tridentine Mass Permission Criticized””

  1. Jim Pauwels

    I just wish that there was more of a commitment to a “traditional” pastoral implementation of the reformed missal, rather than establishing a parallel, Tridentine missal. Once the parallel book became a possibility, I’d think that any interest in pastoral implementation of the reformed missal waned.

  2. Mary Wood

    “It is crucial today that the Church and the hierarchy navigate a way out of the liturgical crises caused by the liberalizing of the Extraordinary Form. ”

    The crises are, alas, more than liturgical and theological. They are also pastoral, creating divisions at family, parish, deanery and diocesan levels.

    Yet those who prefer the EF number but a tiny proportion of the active Church. A similarly unappreciated option appears to have been the establishment of Anglican Ordinariate. In UK only 1500 (yes, fifteen hundred) layfolk have “come in/over” and some 80 clergy, mainly very traditional.

    These opposing preferences do not relate well.

  3. Fr. Neil Xavier O'Donoghue

    While a very small minority of Catholics avail of the various permissions to use the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, my opinion is to say more power to them.
    If some Catholics are willing to invest their time, effort and money into a meaningful liturgy, than this has to be a fundamentally positive movement (again leaving aside certain uncharitable, elitist and triumphalist attitudes that can unfortunately be found in most sectors of the Church, traditionalism included).
    However, I personally believe that, while not perfect in every aspect, the Ordinary Form is far superior to its predecessor and more suited to the normal Catholic’s pastoral needs today. The problem is that the rest of us are not investing the same time, effort and money in our regular celebrations. Rather than seeing traditionalism as a threat, it should be seen as a wake up call to the rest of us.
    I think that the normal parish actually invests very few financial resources in its liturgy. Other than salaries and keeping the general upkeep of the church building, very little is invested in the liturgy. How often do parishes commission vestments or vessels for the liturgy? Do we not wait until we absolutely need a new chasuble and then Father goes to the Church goods store or the catalogue and buys the cheapest thing that he can find?
    The problem is not that a small minority feels drawn to the earlier liturgical forms, the problem is that not enough effort is being put into celebrating the Ordinary Form well. Again in Easter Week, I know that many people have put a lot of work into the Triduum celebrations and some parishes really do work hard on their liturgy, but I am referring to my general impression of the state of Catholic liturgy.

    1. @Fr. Neil Xavier O’Donoghue – comment #3:
      “However, I personally believe that, while not perfect in every aspect, the Ordinary Form is far superior to its predecessor and more suited to the normal Catholic’s pastoral needs today. The problem is that the rest of us are not investing the same time, effort and money in our regular celebrations. Rather than seeing traditionalism as a threat, it should be seen as a wake up call to the rest of us.”

      I emphatically share your preference for the Ordinary Form and am perhaps not as tolerant as I might be for some of our “traditionalist” neighbors. But I do have friends whom I consider to be largely reasonable who are passionately attached to the EF. And I think you’ve hit on something. The EF folks have an advantage that most “normal” parishes don’t have, which tend to be either the huge assemblies packed into a perhaps inadequate building for several liturgies celebrated by an overworked priest; or, alternatively (as is very common in Manhattan), a schedule of a number of Masses in a largely empty grand building perpetuated either for supposed convenience of the faithful or to accommodate a larger number of priests than the attendees at Mass justify. These celebrants are in a revolving rota, some of them “in residence” and largely unconcerned with the other ministers and ministries of the parish or with any parish standards of liturgy.

      In the EF places that I know of, the contrary obtains, as you point out. All available forces are focused on that one Sunday or feast-day Mass. And how. (The fact that they are aware of having something to prove probably doesn’t hurt, either.) It’s in some ways like the situation in Orthodox churches, where there cannot be more than one liturgy at the same altar and the church’s energies are focused on that one weekly event.

      As you suggest, we “ordinary” folks may have something to learn there, while maintaining important distinctions and often-compelling pastoral accommodations.

  4. Sean Peters

    The author of the Origins article rightly sees the danger that the old rite poses to the Church structures that emerged out of the 60s and 70s. Once people experience the old rite or see anything associated with it, they might start to ask questions, which is dangerous thing in the Church.

    1. Shaughn Casey

      @Sean Peters – comment #4:

      They might. . .like it. Or, heaven forbid, prefer it! Horrors. I must admit, having been to a few Low Masses, that I prefer how they are done in France to what I’ve experienced stateside. In Nantes, it’s essentially done as a dialogue mass, which is closer to what I’m accustomed to experiencing. Here, the congregations are mostly silent for Low Mass, with the server speaking the parts quietly. Even in that case, though, they were rapt, paying attention, and engaged, with genuflections, bowing, making the sign of the cross, beating the breast, etc.

      I suspect, though, that this level of participation at Low Mass, while more common now, was not the norm prior to the 20th Century; otherwise, Dom Gregory Dix would not have come down like a hammer on it so relentlessly in the 1940s.

      1. Sean Peters

        @Shaughn Casey – comment #7:

        Yes, God forbid. Of course, “only a few” or a “small minority” wanted the old rite. Minimizing the problem makes it go away. I don’t know how many are interested in the TLM, but they number more than a few. A good percentage of the younger people in the Church are interested in it. Without those people the future of the Church would be even bleaker than it is now. And with the grip of the 60s and 70s loosening more and more, impediments to the use of the old rite will continue to weaken. I see a ray of hope with the TLM, but I doubt that it alone will go a long way to reverse the decline that I’ve seen even in my lifetime.

        On another note, I think you can sense in the article the author’s fear that someone in the Vatican would rein in the power of bishops and episcopal conferences, aka the “local Church.”

  5. Jim Pauwels

    This is an interesting item:

    “[The congress] criticized the ability of a local ordinary to allow the “Tridentine Mass” without “the approbatio of an episcopal conference [or] the confirmatio of the Apostolic See.””

    Was the underlying concern here that a local bishop would make the Tridentine rite the “ordinary” form for his diocese, and hence the desire by the congress that this not be done without oversight/permission by the national conference and Rome?

  6. Todd Orbitz

    I appreciate and agree with some of Father’s points above.

    First, let me say, — State of Life — I am 43, married to my wife 35, with six kids 10, 9, 8 6, 4, 18 mos. I am NOT a traditionalist SSPX’er. And yes, I have attended the New Mass on and off for my whole life. I have also attended the Pian Rite on and off since 1984 — when it became available in New Haven, CT under Quattuor Abhinc Annos in 1984.

    For literally 20 years, I was a “reform of the reform” guy. But, with my limited experience, regardless of what one would support/request/offer with respect to the Pauline Rite, every Liturgy Commmittee I ever dealt with simply sniffed at the idea of including any of the traditional liturgical patrimony that is actually an organic part of the liturgical books.

    After Summorum Pontificum, I gradually gave up. I attend the EF almost exclusively now. My kids go to a school where they have it 3-4 times a week, and the Pauline Rite – though offered traditionally with plainchant, etc.- 1 or 2 times a week.

    What I found is a couple things.

    a. My kids are MUCH better behaved and actively engaged in the liturgy when they attend the EF. When we go to the OF at the local “conservative” parish, we can never get the kids to focus. The cry rooms are really play rooms, there is no silence, and the back and forth between Priest and people almost seems to overwhelm the children when combined with the music.

    b. While there are still some of the old extremist outliers who attend the EF, most seem to be comprised of families like mine who want the peace of stability in liturgy.

    c. Most of the congregation is well read in the documents of Vatican II, Vatican I, and Trent, and accept them.

    d. I am willing to suffer for the availability of the Old Rite. One can imagine cash is tight with a family my size, but we were able to come up with a $500 offering to explicitly support the availability of the EF at the parish. (I know of several other families who did the same this Lent.)

  7. Appreciate historical facts. It really does put the retro into the actions and decisions of both JPII and Benedict (and they will canonize JPII – really?)

    This whole 30 year experiment will be a historical anomaly in a few years.

  8. Stanislaus Kosala

    Even if the percentage of young people attached to the EFi is rather small in this country, there is a far larger percentage of young people who see the profound spirituality of the EF and recognize that with all the good that the post-vatican ii reform accomplished, something crucial has also been lost. As a result, they seek to recapture certain aspects of the EF in the OF.
    A still larger percentage of young people don’t interpret reality according to the pre-vatican ii / post-vatican ii dichotomy, and don’t have any interest in carrying out someone else’s revolution.

    This Sunday, Pope John Paul II is being canonized, and everything that Pope Francis has indicated suggests that he sees JPII as having outlined the proper interpretation of the council as well as the path that the church should take.

    1. Anthony Ruff, OSB Avatar
      Anthony Ruff, OSB

      @Stanislaus Kosala – comment #10:
      You write: “…everything that Pope Francis has indicated suggests that he sees JPII as having outlined the proper interpretation of the council?”

      But on the contrary, Pope Francis told the Dutch bishops, “We have been implementing the council only half-way. Half of the work has still to be done.”
      http://ncronline.org/news/pope-talks-openly-about-reform-sex-abuse-dutch-bishop-says

      Francis’s apostolic exhortation Evangelii Gaudium speaks of the need for greater collegiality and for giving more authority, including doctrinal authority, to episcopal conferences. It’s hard not to read that as a critique of John Paul II and his policy of minimizing the authority of conferences.

      awr

      1. Stanislaus Kosala

        @Anthony Ruff, OSB – comment #11:
        Father Anthony,

        Yet Pope Francis wrote to Archbishop Angelo Marchetto telling him that he considers him the “best interpreter of Vatican II.” Marchetto is a huge proponent of the hermeneutic of continuity approach that Benedict XVI championed and a critic of the Bologna school.
        Again, in an official letter on the anniversary of the Council of Trent, he fully endorsed Benedict’s approach saying:
        “In fact, the “hermeneutic of renewal” which Our Predecessor Benedict XVI explained in 2005 before the Roman Curia, refers in no way less to the Council of Trent than to the Vatican Council.”
        It’s interesting that you refer to that part of Evangelii Gaudium since Pope Francis presents his approach to collegiality as a response to John Paul II’s call to look for new ways of exercising the petrine office in Ut Unum Sint.
        It’s one thing to talk about ecclesial structures, it’s another to talk about proper interpretation of doctrine – here Francis is taking the route presented by JPII and BXVI. (Don’t worry though, Francis won’t repeal Summorum Pontificum)

  9. Fr. Jack Feehily

    He doesn’t have to repeal SP, he just needs to ignore it. It was Benedict’s interest in the ROTR and his tastes in vesture that breathed what little life there is in the movement to restore the Vatican I ecclesiology and liturgioligy (i.e. Rubricism). If there’ one thing the cardinals knew when selecting Bergoglio it was putting an end to the curtailment of VII.

    1. Stanislaus Kosala

      @Fr. Jack Feehily – comment #13:
      Is this the same Bergoglio who explicitly supports Benedict’s approach to interpreting Vatican II?

      1. Anthony Ruff, OSB Avatar
        Anthony Ruff, OSB

        @Stanislaus Kosala – comment #15:
        He has said and done lots of things. You’re picking out the parts you like. You could be setting yourself up for a disappointment as the papacy moves forward.
        awr

      2. Stanislaus Kosala

        @Anthony Ruff, OSB – comment #17:
        Certainly, but I could say the same about you, Father.
        BTW, how do you know that those are the parts that I like?

        I don’t deny that there is discontinuity between Francis and his immediate predecessors, rather I’m pointing out that the differences and similarities between them are not entirely obvious. He is not staying the same course, and he is not completely changing course. Though, when it comes to doctrine, it’s pretty clear that he intends to stay on the same course as his immediate predecessors. He’s a lot closer to JPII than many care to admit.

      3. Stanislaus Kosala

        @Anthony Ruff, OSB – comment #17:
        I just remembered one more thing about Evangelii Gaudium, the way that Pope Francis describes the local church in the passage that you reference makes it sound as though he is siding with Ratzinger in the Ratzinger-Kasper debate concerning the ontological primacy of the universal church over particular churches:
        “since it is the concrete manifestation of the one Church in one specific place, and in it “the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church of Christ is truly present and operative”.[31] It is the Church incarnate in a certain place, equipped with all the means of salvation bestowed by Christ, but with local features. ”

        The particular church is a concrete manifestation, an “incarnation” of the universal church. Hence, the universal church exists prior to local churches. This seems to be a repudiation of Cardinal Kasper’s position that the local and the universal churches are in some sense equiprimordial. It also appears to be in continuity with John Paul II’s Communionis Notio which is penned by Ratzinger. Thus, Francis seems to be operating under the same ecclesiology as JPII and BXVI.

  10. Jack Wayne

    Looks like a diversionary tactic. Why look at the problems going on at 99 percent of the Masses (where the majority of people decide if they wish to stay or not) when we can have a bogeyman minority who is supposedly undermining the Church and is the real cause of our problems. No need for personal responsibility or for self reflection.

    If Vatican II is being impeded or is only half implemented, then it isn’t a tiny minority of Catholics doing it. I’m still looking for objective proof of the wild claims of EF detractors regarding division, crisis, etc.

    1. Sean Peters

      @Jack Wayne – comment #14:

      It definitely is easier to look for bogeymen than to look critically at oneself. Self reflection is all too absent among Church leaders. Whatever their issues, I don’t think trads are for the most part to blame for declining membership rolls, the shutting-down of Catholic schools, etc.

  11. John Kohanski

    I don’t think that Pope Francis is ignoring SP as much as letting it be. The Holy Father’s “Big Tent” ecclesiology provides enough room for everyone, even when those in the Church, on both sides of the aisle, don’t. “I see clearly that the thing the Church needs most today is the ability to heal wounds and to warm the hearts of the faithful; it needs nearness, proximity. I see the church as a field hospital after battle.”

    Recently posted on another thread was the following comment, which in its own way, echoes the Holy Father’s broad policy of inclusion. It’s speaking on another topic, but it’s equally applicable here: “The pertinent documents have made it clear to most that unity does not require strict uniformity.” But isn’t that precisely the opposite of what the outcome of this 1984 conference proposed?

    And yet, as one of the popular praise songs that we sing (to ourselves) puts it:
    “Let us build a house where all are named, their songs and visions heard/and loved and treasured, taught and claimed as words within the Word./Built of tears and cries and laughter, prayers of faith and songs of grace,/let this house proclaim from floor to rafter:/All are welcome, all are welcome, all are welcome in this place.”

    But do we really mean it? Can everyone’s songs be heard? Are all welcome?


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