{"id":8051,"date":"2011-02-26T14:18:31","date_gmt":"2011-02-26T20:18:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=8051"},"modified":"2013-07-07T15:10:29","modified_gmt":"2013-07-07T21:10:29","slug":"the-new-missal-in-letters-to-the-editor-mostly-thumbs-down","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2011\/02\/26\/the-new-missal-in-letters-to-the-editor-mostly-thumbs-down\/","title":{"rendered":"The New Missal in Letters to the Editor: Mostly Thumbs Down"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The forthcoming English missal is becoming a hot news story, and not just in Catholic publications. As <em>Pray Tell <\/em>reported earlier, <a href=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2011\/02\/20\/mostly-negative-reactions-to-new-missal-in-new-zealand\/\" target=\"_blank\">letters to the editor of the <em>New Zealand<\/em> <em>Catholic<\/em><\/a> have been running solidly against the missal. The trend is confirmed in recent letters to <em>The Irish Times, America<\/em>, and <em>The Tablet<\/em>: more than 3 to 1 against the new missal. Here are some interesting excerpts from 26 letters to these three publications. A total of six letters of the 26 are supportive of the missal (although rather weakly in some cases).<\/p>\n<p><em>The Irish Times<\/em> carried a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0205\/1224289070735.html\" target=\"_blank\">letter<\/a> (2\/5) from Kieron Wood defending \u201cfor you and for many\u201d \u2013 \u201cWhat nonsense\u201d to claim that this implies that Christ died only for some! Fr. Vincent Twomey also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0208\/1224289258751.html\" target=\"_blank\">wrote<\/a> (2\/8) to defend this phrase and critique the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.associationofcatholicpriests.ie\/2011\/02\/press-conference-on-new-liturgical-texts\/\" target=\"_blank\">statement of the Association of Catholic Priests<\/a> that the new translation is \u201csexist, archaic, elitist, and obscure.\u201d He writes, \u201cWhat is of \u2018grave concern\u2019 to the association is what gives me hope: namely a language that is not conversational but formal, elevated, and theologically dense \u2013 if you wish, arcane. It may help to restore some semblance of the sacred to the celebration of the Mystery.\u201d In the same issue, Fr. Dermot Lane <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0208\/1224289258751.html\" target=\"_blank\">wrote<\/a> in support of the current \u201cfor you and for all\u201d: \u201c\u2018For many\u2019 as understood in the usage of the English language is a restrictive designation\u2026 In Semitic use \u2018for many\u2019 is expansive, not restrictive.\u201d The coming translation \u201closes the inclusive and universal meaning of the work of Jesus.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Then came a slew of negative letters to <em>The Irish Times<\/em> \u2013 three on 2\/9 and three more on 2\/10. Tony Flannery <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0209\/1224289345947.html\" target=\"_blank\">told readers<\/a> that a certain Anthony Ruff has withdrawn support for the missal by stating \u201cI have concluded that I cannot promote the new missal translation with integrity.\u201d Monica Dolan <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0209\/1224289345947.html\" target=\"_blank\">disagrees<\/a> with Fr. Twomey: \u201cI am fed up with the process that follows a line that keeps Jesus glued to the manger and nailed to the cross and infers all else is a mystery.\u201d Cormac McMahon <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0209\/1224289345947.html\" target=\"_blank\">suggests<\/a>, tongue in cheek, that everyone \u201cmake an honest effort\u201d to \u201cdrop into daily conversation\u201d words like \u2018consubstantial\u2019 and \u2018and with your spirit.\u2019 He concludes, \u201cFew of the Catholic faithful, I fear, will come to love this new variety of Latin-English mishmash.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Critiquing the coming \u201cfor you and for many,\u201d Kieran O\u2019Mahoney <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0210\/1224289431388.html\" target=\"_blank\">wrote<\/a> to point out that \u201cpoured out for many\u201d is used in Matthew and Mark but not in the earlier versions from Paul. And \u201ceven in St. Matthew, the words \u2018poured out for many\u2019 are preceded by \u2018drink from it, all of you.\u2019\u201d Ted Mooney <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0210\/1224289431388.html\" target=\"_blank\">wrote<\/a> \u201cI had hoped that the new missal would show a willingness to espouse inclusiveness in relation to women,\u201d and \u201cWere Jesus to reappear among us today, he would be unlikely to use many four-syllable, 14-letter words to get his message across \u2013 and I can\u2019t imagine him excluding women!\u201d Soline Humber <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0210\/1224289431388.html\" target=\"_blank\">wrote<\/a> simply this:\u201d The latest Roman missal: a weapon of Mass destruction?\u201d But Leo Talbot <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0210\/1224289431388.html\" target=\"_blank\">wrote<\/a>, \u201cFears that such complicated language might be too difficult for the people in the pews are not well-founded\u2026 I am under no illusion that the introduction of the new translation will be easy. It will require a lot of work for it to be a success.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>P\u00e1draig McCarthy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0215\/1224289831529.html\" target=\"_blank\">wrote<\/a> (2\/15), \u201cThe simplest of language, used well, can inspire and challenge and instill awe\u2026 Using difficult language is not a good way to convey awe and mystery; it can result instead in confusion and frustration.\u201d Dick Reeves compares the missal crisis to the situation in Egypt when he <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/letters\/2011\/0216\/1224289928366.html\" target=\"_blank\">writes<\/a> (2\/16), \u201cLet us have a Tahrir Square moment for Catholics and scare the\u2026 pants off Dr. Twomey and his buddies.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>America <\/em>ran five letters (2\/28), four of them negative toward the new missal. Mike Curren <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americamagazine.org\/content\/article.cfm?article_id=12728\" target=\"_blank\">sees the new translation<\/a> as \u201ca great opportunity to explain the Mass.\u201d He believes that it is \u201can opportunity to engage in catechesis that will not only increase our own faith, but will also \u2013 simply because it is a change \u2013 increase appreciation of that which for some has become mechanical and stale.\u201d But Fr. Robert J. Mahoney <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americamagazine.org\/content\/article.cfm?article_id=12728\" target=\"_blank\">writes<\/a> that \u201csome of the new revision wording seems \u2018precious\u2019 in a way that smacks of religious jargon that merely obfuscates.\u201d Josephine A. Daly <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americamagazine.org\/content\/article.cfm?article_id=12728\" target=\"_blank\">regrets<\/a> that \u201cFather Ruff\u2019s letter comes too late\u201d; much money has already been wasted on this project. \u201cCould it be better spent providing homes and shelters for pregnant women\u2026\u201d in difficult times? She asks further, \u201cWill a more literal translation of the missal bring Christ into our world?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Fr. Harry Behan is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americamagazine.org\/content\/article.cfm?article_id=12728\" target=\"_blank\">very critical<\/a>: \u201cThe imposition and the straightjacket of a dead language, Latin, on a living modern culture is ridiculous; and the Latin is low Latin, later than the Greek and not as beautiful. The lack of inclusive language is outrageous in this day and age.\u201d \u00a0Nicholas Narloch is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americamagazine.org\/content\/article.cfm?article_id=12728\" target=\"_blank\">equally critical<\/a>: \u201cPerhaps top-down decision making in Rome worked in the Middle Ages, but it does not work for American churchgoers in the 21st century\u2026 This archaic, self-selecting, celibate male club has proven its dysfunction in many ways.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Charles S. Krawzewski <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetablet.co.uk\/issue\/1000247\/letters-extra\" target=\"_blank\">writes<\/a> to <em>The Tablet<\/em> (Letters Plus online, posted for the current week), \u201cAs a Latinist (and not a theologian), I must say I do welcome the tightening up of the translation of the Canon so that the Latin words \u2018pro multis\u2019\u2026will finally read in English \u2018for many,\u2019 instead of the very curious \u2018for all,\u2019 which is nowhere found in Scripture, in the normative Latin texts of the Mass, or in any other vernacular translation of the Mass of Paul VI outside of our English version.\u201d (He\u2019s mistaken about other languages \u2013 <em>per tutti, por todos<\/em>, <em>f\u00fcr alle, voor alle <\/em>all mean \u201cfor all.\u201d)\u00a0Krawzewski also states, \u201cI believe it matters less what translation of the Mass we use, than how we use the translations that have been approved for our use,\u201d and he calls for \u201crespect and prayerful awe for the great miracle that is transpiring among us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>P\u00e1draig McCarthy, who also wrote to <em>The Irish Times<\/em>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetablet.co.uk\/issue\/1000247\/letters-extra\" target=\"_blank\">writes<\/a> to <em>The Tablet<\/em>, \u201cThe stock of the hierarchy with the public is at low ebb due to recent scandals and other reasons\u2026\u201d He believes that the new missal will confirm for people \u201ctheir sense of the hierarchy and the Vatican as autocratic, as the new translation is introduced without any attempt at consultation beforehand with the people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Somewhat supportive is the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetablet.co.uk\/pdf\/4668\" target=\"_blank\">letter<\/a> to <em>The Tablet<\/em> (2\/26) of consecrated hermit Sr. Sandra Th\u00e9r\u00e8se: \u201cThere are very few truly arcane expressions, and may it not be that such as there are might serve to remind us of the true solemnity of the liturgy in which we share and that sadly is so often celebrated in a casual manner nowadays?\u201d But even she states, \u201cI greatly deplore the manner in which the new text has been imposed, and the disrespect shown to our bishops\u201d by the Vatican. Still, she concludes, \u201cWe have had long enough to air our grievances; it is time to express our faith by humble obedience.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But the other three letters in this issue (2\/26) of <em>The Tablet<\/em> are all negative. <em>Pray Tell<\/em> reader and commenter Chris McDonnell <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetablet.co.uk\/pdf\/4668\" target=\"_blank\">writes<\/a>, \u201cHow many parishes will be made aware of the machinations in Rome that curtailed the excellent work of the International Commission on English in the Liturgy and gave rise to the text from Vox Clara that is now on offer? Or will all that be conveniently disregarded as we near the date for the use of the new text? Collegiality, one of the central gifts of the Second Vatican Council, has been gradually replaced by the dissemination of centralized opinions that all are expected to follow without question. Which is a pity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>With few leaders giving public support for the new missal, Andy Bebington <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetablet.co.uk\/pdf\/4668\" target=\"_blank\">wonders<\/a> whether such supporters \u201care few and\/or that their belief in this new text is weak? And, if we can so assume, what can we infer from this ongoing silence?\u201d Bernard Harrison <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetablet.co.uk\/pdf\/4668\" target=\"_blank\">writes<\/a>, \u201cWhen the subject of the new Mass was raised at our annual meeting of my own parish council, one highly respected parishioner asked on simple question: \u2018Why?\u2019 That was greeted with an immediate round of loud applause.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The three &#8220;Letters Extra&#8221; to <em>The Tablet<\/em> a week ago (no longer online) were all negative. Angela Hanley wrote, &#8220;This disastrous translation whould neither be accepted nor implemented for the reasons outlined in various national papers and in <em>The Tablet<\/em>&#8230; The heart of this matter is not about translation, but about power and control.&#8221; Fr. Edward Butler wrote, &#8220;Despite the protestations of the committee of <em>Vox Clara<\/em>, there is, throughout the English-speaking world, widespread aversion of the new translation of the Roman Missal and many indications that those priests who have the gottle to do so will reject its utterly insensitive imposition. The latest group to speak out are the clergy of Ireland and they are to be commended for this. Not even Bishop Olmstead <em>(member of <\/em>Vox Clara<em> &#8211; Ed.)<\/em> is going to excommunicate all of them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And John Green wrote, &#8220;I see&#8230;that, according to <em>Vox Clara,<\/em> the Roman Missal has been &#8216;welcomed throughout the English-speaking world.&#8217; &#8230; You report that Fr. Anthony Ruff, OSB, will not be able to deliver lectures supporting the new translation because he cannot support the translation. Surely, the proof of who is right will be the reaction to its introduction by members of native English-speaking parishes as it is gradually released into the wider world from September this year. Preliminary discussions with some of my fellow parishioners are not encouraging.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When the subject of the new Mass was raised at our annual meeting of my own parish council, one highly respected parishioner asked on simple question: &#8220;Why?&#8221; That was greeted with an immediate round of loud applause.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":29,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[24],"tags":[253,1130,430],"class_list":["post-8051","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-translation-new-missal","tag-america-magazine","tag-the-irish-times","tag-the-tablet"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>The New Missal in Letters to the Editor: Mostly Thumbs Down - Home<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2011\/02\/26\/the-new-missal-in-letters-to-the-editor-mostly-thumbs-down\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"The New Missal in Letters to the Editor: Mostly Thumbs Down - Home\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"When the subject of the new Mass was raised at our annual meeting of my own parish council, one highly respected parishioner asked on simple question: &quot;Why?&quot; 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