{"id":4991,"date":"2010-10-29T20:29:56","date_gmt":"2010-10-30T01:29:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=4991"},"modified":"2011-03-10T23:23:55","modified_gmt":"2011-03-11T05:23:55","slug":"irish-women-respected-by-the-church","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2010\/10\/29\/irish-women-respected-by-the-church\/","title":{"rendered":"Irish women respected by the church?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is very disturbing: Most (almost 3 out of 4) Catholic women in Ireland do not feel that their church \u201cregards women with a lot of respect,\u201d but most Protestant Irish women by far, almost all in fact, feel that their church does.<\/p>\n<p>But this sounds a bit more hopeful: 73 per cent of Catholic women say the \u201cCatholic clergy are now more understanding of what women need from their church.\u201d They don&#8217;t say what \u201cnow\u201d means or which needs are in view \u2013 and compared to what or when? But at least it&#8217;s better than something or the other.<\/p>\n<p>No, this isn\u2019t a post agitating for the ordination of women in the Catholic Church. It\u2019s not gonna happen in my lifetime, I predict. (I\u2019m\u00a0not extending any predictions beyond my death, at which point I hope to acquire new insights on all sorts of issues.)<\/p>\n<p>This <em>is<\/em> a post, however,\u00a0calling attention\u00a0to a problem. If most of the women of a given church don\u2019t feel respected by their church, then that church \u2013 whether it ordains women or not \u2013 has a <em>huge<\/em> pastoral problem on its hands. The kind of problem that takes root and lasts for generations to come. The kind of problem it\u2019s very hard to turn around.<\/p>\n<p>Folks, please let\u2019s not debate women\u2019s ordination, OK? Unless, I suppose, if the Holy Spirit has revealed to you something reallyreallyreally new that we haven\u2019t heard before. We\u2019ve all heard already, for example, that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women.<\/p>\n<p>But here\u2019s something worth discussing: why do so many Catholic women (at least in Ireland) feel their Church does not respect them? Is it the same anywhere else? Presupposing that the teaching on women\u2019s ordination won\u2019t change (at least not anytime soon, some of you will want to qualify), what ten constructive things could happen in the Catholic Church to address the problem? Is mandatory celibacy \u2013 the kind of people it attracts to ordained ministry, or the kind of culture that develops around it \u2013 an aspect of the problem? If so, how can clerical culture be changed for the better? What would it look like for Catholic women to feel that their Church respects them?<\/p>\n<p>Thoughts?<\/p>\n<p>awr<\/p>\n<p><em>Source:<\/em> <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/ireland\/2010\/1030\/1224282319977.html\" target=\"_blank\">Irish Times<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Almost three-quarters of Catholic women do not feel their church \u201cregards women with a lot of respect\u201d in contrast to 94 per cent of Protestant women who feel they are respected.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":27,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[357],"tags":[252,1130,474],"class_list":["post-4991","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-demographics-and-sociology","tag-ireland","tag-the-irish-times","tag-womens-issues"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Irish women respected by the church? 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