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\"\"I have spent the last nine (plus) years studying and now teaching at a Jesuit Institution of higher learning.\u00a0 I am grateful for the experience and to the institution that funded (most of) my doctoral studies and to those with whom I have had the opportunity to study.\u00a0 I have learned and continue to learn much about the Christian experience through my interactions with friends and colleagues of different faith traditions and, hopefully, they have done the same.\u00a0 However, in many ways, this encounter has been and continues to be a challenge\u2014what I have euphemistically called, a \u201cstretching\u201d experience.\u00a0As someone steeped in the milieu of the Orthodox Church and, in particular, the Romanian tradition, I have learned that, although Orthodox and Catholics in this country all speak the same language (i.e. English), it is often very difficult for us to understand one another and communicate.\u00a0 We have different (modern) histories and ask different questions and oftentimes have different starting points, assumptions, and categories when addressing them. We look to different figures for authority and citation.\u00a0 In conversation, we may be using the same words, but mean different things by them and at other times, we may be using different words but actually mean the same or similar things.\u00a0 The continual \u201ctranslation\u201d would often give me headaches.\u00a0 However, little of this \u201ctranslation\u201d was necessary when studying and experiencing the liturgy together.\u00a0 For me, the liturgy was a meeting place\u2014where East and West could encounter God and our neighbor and grow towards our God together.\u00a0 It was and is also an arena where we can continue to learn from one another.<\/p>\n

For the Roman Catholic Church, the work of the scholarly study of liturgy, early church history and patristics (broadly speaking, the Liturgical Movement of the 20thcentury) culminated in the adoption and promulgation of the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy (Sacrosanctum Concilium<\/em>) at Vatican II.\u00a0 As many know, this document set out broad principles for reform of the liturgical life of the Catholic Church, emphasizing the communal nature of the Liturgy and, among other things, the \u201cfull, conscious, and active\u201d participation of all the faithful in its exercise.\u00a0Today, such participation is the norm within the Catholic world. \u00a0Still, the effects of Vatican II and especially the reform of the Liturgy and its reception (both within the Catholic world and beyond) continue to be an area of debate.<\/p>\n

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Sacrosanctum Concilium… emphasizing the communal nature of the Liturgy and … the ‘full, conscious, active’ participation of all the faithful
\nin its exercise.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

In my encounters within the Catholic milieu of my doctoral studies, many Roman Catholics see the Orthodox liturgy as having never gone through any type of reform and unaffected by the Liturgical Movement of the twentieth century.\u00a0 Of course, anyone who knows anything about the liturgy of the Eastern Church knows that the Orthodox liturgy has gone through a great deal of development in its history.\u00a0 However, whether the scholarship of the Liturgical Movement had any influence on the liturgy of the Orthodox Church is a more complicated question.\u00a0 (And one that I hope to address further in future posts.)\u00a0Suffice it to say that the answer is both \u201cyes\u201d and \u201cnot much\u201d\u2014\u201cyes,\u201d in its self-understanding of what we do in liturgy, \u201cnot much\u201d in terms of any substantive structural changes.<\/p>\n

Some Catholics (usually of the more traditional variety), upon hearing that I am an Orthodox Christian, have made it a point to proclaim their love for the Orthodox liturgy and critique the changes to the Mass after Vatican II.\u00a0 Mainly, they lament the loss of beauty and reverence of their experience of the Novus Ordo\u00a0<\/em>and long for the Tridentine Mass.\u00a0 I smile, but, as a scholar of liturgy, know that the Mass of Paul VI has much more in common theologically (e.g. its stronger pneumatological dimension) and ecclesiologically with the Eastern Church than the Tridentine Mass.\u00a0 Still, having attended a few Masses (of the post-Vatican II style) that I found (in their words) overly \u201cinformal\u201d and\/or \u201cdry,\u201d their concern resonates.<\/p>\n

Interestingly, the reform of the liturgy after Vatican II is also debated within some Orthodox circles.\u00a0 Some Orthodox Christians are critical of the reform of the Mass after Vatican II as well.\u00a0 In this case, they fail to distinguish between the greater theological and historical similarities of the Orthodox liturgy and the Mass after Vatican II while over emphasizing some of the phenomenological differences.\u00a0 It is true that the Orthodox liturgy is incredibly rich and, personally, I have found (and still find) it to be life giving, but, in some cases, I acknowledge that we could learn a thing or two from the concerns that were addressed at Vatican II.\u00a0 For instance, although in the United States, many (but not all) celebrations of the liturgy are in English or in the language of the people of the assembly, in many other parts of the Orthodox world, the liturgy is still celebrated in an antiquated version of the language of the respective national tradition.\u00a0 Among other things, this disconnects the assembly from the celebration and does not engender \u201cconscious\u201d participation.\u00a0 Furthermore, many of the actions and words of the service are done or said mainly by the clergy (with the response given by the chanter or choir)\u2014the \u201cactors\u201d or \u201cfull, active\u201d participants\u2014while most of the assembly is often relegated to \u201cspectator\u201d status. For instance, in some places, the words to a prayer are still not said for all to hear and pray (i.e. the so-called \u201csilent\u201d prayers) and yet the assembly is expected to assent to them (with their \u201cAmen\u201d).\u00a0 In addition, the Orthodox can be quick to highlight the beauty and reverence of the Orthodox liturgy, without acknowledging the ways in which it can be rushed and\/or sloppily celebrated.\u00a0 (Of course, all of this cries out for nuance.\u00a0I am using a broad brush here.)<\/p>\n

The Orthodox can be quick to highlight
\nthe beauty and reverence of the Orthodox liturgy…<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Liturgy is not just texts.\u00a0It is the entire event of texts, music, art, architecture, movement, etc. \u2014an encounter with God and neighbor through a harmonious symphony of sight, sound, touch, smell, and taste that engages the mind and heart, soul and body.\u00a0 So, what can we learn from one another?\u00a0 For starters, maybe the Orthodox can learn to appreciate the importance of the \u201cfull, conscious, active\u201d participation of all\u00a0<\/em>of the faithful in the Liturgy.\u00a0 And maybe the Catholic can learn that the celebration of the Novus Ordo\u00a0<\/em>can have beauty and reverence.\u00a0 And maybe, we can all learn that we can continue to learn from one another.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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