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The Notre Dame Center for Liturgy is providing a series of online resources for catechesis on the new English translation of the Roman Missal.\u00a0 Recently I posted four “mystagogical musical musings”<\/a> on four of the longer chants congregations are invited to sing during the Eucharist: the Glory to God, the Holy, Holy, Holy, the Lord’s Prayer, and the Lamb of God.\u00a0 I examine both the new translations and the proposed ICEL chant settings of these texts. These musings attempt to enrich worshipers’ engagement with these texts by examining their biblical foundations and contexts, their historical usage, and their present-day rubrics.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I have posted four “mystagogical musical musings” at the Notre Dame Center for Liturgy on four of the longer congregational chants: the Glory to God, the Holy, Holy, Holy, the Lord’s Prayer, and the Lamb of God. 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