{"id":38231,"date":"2017-09-29T12:34:22","date_gmt":"2017-09-29T17:34:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=38231"},"modified":"2022-11-07T22:41:06","modified_gmt":"2022-11-08T04:41:06","slug":"reading-dw-3-where-are-we-about-the-church","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2017\/09\/29\/reading-dw-3-where-are-we-about-the-church\/","title":{"rendered":"Reading DW #3: Where are We About the Church?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you want to know where you\u2019re going, it\u2019s critical to know where you already are. As a fairly new transplant to South Texas, I rely on my GPS regularly \u2013 and a couple of weeks ago, as I was headed to a new part of town, it started spitting out directions as if I were about \u00be of a mile behind where I actually was. Needless to say, I got hopelessly lost, and was late to my meeting.<\/p>\n<p>The Declaration on the Way (DW) is a new genre of ecumenical dialogue that attempts to accurately orient the Lutheran Catholic relationship as to where it is <em>in via<\/em> towards unity. This post will be the first of three that looks at where DW locates Catholics and Lutherans on the path towards unity on a particular subject. The satellites that the GPS is pinging here are the dialogues of the last 50 years, and from these DW gathers both principles of agreement and areas of ongoing disagreement.<\/p>\n<p>Today\u2019s post will examine the first topic that DW examines: the Church. It finds twelve agreements on the church, which it gathers into the areas of<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The Church\u2019s Foundations in God\u2019s Saving Work<\/li>\n<li>The Word, Scripture, and Means of Grace<\/li>\n<li>Communion, Visibility, and Hiddenness<\/li>\n<li>Preservation of the Church and Union with the Saints and<\/li>\n<li>Eschatology and Mission<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/beliefs-and-teachings\/ecumenical-and-interreligious\/ecumenical\/lutheran\/upload\/Declaration_on_the_Way-for-Website.pdf#page=16\">I would encourage you to read the agreements themselves<\/a>, which I won\u2019t reproduce here. The agreement proceeds from the insistence of God\u2019s enduring priority over the church, and therefore the absolute gratuity of God\u2019s gifts to the church of himself through Word and Sacrament. The church is understood to be an eschatological, or in the language of DW, anticipatory reality, oriented to God\u2019s final remaking of the world.<\/p>\n<p>As a creature on the way itself, the church has to both proclaim its fundamental connection to its origins (in \u201cthe whole event of Jesus Christ\u201d \u00a72) and its destination (\u201cGod\u2019s ultimate gathering of his people in their entirety when Christ returns and when the Holy Spirit completes the work of Sanctification.\u201d \u00a711). \u00a0Of course, this also means recognizing the distance that lies between the church\u2019s experience of itself and both the purity of God\u2019s self-revelation in Christ Jesus and the fullness of God\u2019s final gift.<\/p>\n<p>As the explanation in Chapter III <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/beliefs-and-teachings\/ecumenical-and-interreligious\/ecumenical\/lutheran\/upload\/Declaration_on_the_Way-for-Website.pdf#page=37\">spells out:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>While the church is already a partaking (koinonia) in the saving gifts and conditions deriving from the common life and merciful approach of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, it has these in fragmentary and incomplete ways. They now instill hope and joy but also anticipation and longing for them in the manner of their consummation in the final kingdom of God, when the triune God will be \u201call in all\u201d (1 15: 24\u201328) <\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>DW also recognizes that there is not yet complete agreement about the church between Catholics and Lutherans. It sees five principle areas in which ongoing conversation will be needed.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/beliefs-and-teachings\/ecumenical-and-interreligious\/ecumenical\/lutheran\/upload\/Declaration_on_the_Way-for-Website.pdf#page=73\">First<\/a>, <\/strong>whether the church may only be designated \u201ccongregation of the faithful\u201d or also \u201csacrament of salvation. \u00a0Catholics use both of these descriptors, while Lutherans remain more wary of designating the church to be sacramental. They fear that describing the church in sacramental terms might give it more of a status as a mediator, or even a controller, of grace than as a recipient of that grace. Both groups can agree that the church is both a \u201ccreature\u201d and a \u201cminister\u201d of the word, and a sign of God\u2019s saving will and instrument of grace through word and sacrament. The ongoing conversation needs to attend to the ways in which the institutional church has used the theological status of the church as a tool of power over others. This idea recurs in several of the remaining areas for ongoing conversation and mutual conversion.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/beliefs-and-teachings\/ecumenical-and-interreligious\/ecumenical\/lutheran\/upload\/Declaration_on_the_Way-for-Website.pdf#page=76\">Second<\/a><\/strong>, DW sees a need for further conversation about how the church can be understood as both holy and sinful. This topic is, in a sense, the converse of the previous. Where Lutherans call the church both \u201choly\u201d and \u201csinful,\u201d Catholics \u201crefrain from calling the church itself \u2018sinful.\u2019\u201d This doesn\u2019t mean that Catholics deny that \u201cthe power of evil is at work in\u201d the church, but that they tend to think of the church triumphant as the most proper term of the word \u2018church\u2019 and to speak of the aspects of the church in this world that are not holy as belonging not to the church, properly speaking, but to that which God will purify the church from.<\/p>\n<p>There is an important parallel here to how Lutherans and Catholics talk about sin in the baptized. Where Catholics insist that baptism removes everything that is sin \u201cproperly speaking\u201d they also admit that baptized Christians, even in a state of grace, are not yet the fullness of what God will remake them to be. They are concupiscent and their desires often works against the will of God, even when they do not act on those desires. Where Lutherans want to name that reality \u201csin\u201d because it belongs to what God will purify out of us, Catholics worry that doing so would mean that we are saying that baptism has no effect on people. In the JDDJ, Lutherans and Catholics agreed that their understandings were not contradictory, and perhaps a similar way forward can be found in speaking about the mixed reality we experience in the church<\/p>\n<p>The <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/beliefs-and-teachings\/ecumenical-and-interreligious\/ecumenical\/lutheran\/upload\/Declaration_on_the_Way-for-Website.pdf#page=79\">Third<\/a><\/strong>, and <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/beliefs-and-teachings\/ecumenical-and-interreligious\/ecumenical\/lutheran\/upload\/Declaration_on_the_Way-for-Website.pdf#page=82\">Fourth<\/a><\/strong> points have to do with the teaching authority of the church. While both Lutherans and Catholics teach that the church, by the Holy Spirit, distinguishes the truth of the Gospel, and therefore teaches in a binding way, there is remaining difference about how precisely this is done, what the relationship of the bishops to the rest of the church is, and how the church responds in practical ways the historical truth that being made a bishop is not an absolute guarantee against heresy. Also involved in these disagreements is the related question of how God works in the church, what rights and responsibilities belong to various kinds of Christian office holders, and how the church rightly judges and therefore teaches what the Gospel requires in particular times and places.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/beliefs-and-teachings\/ecumenical-and-interreligious\/ecumenical\/lutheran\/upload\/Declaration_on_the_Way-for-Website.pdf#page=85\">Finally,<\/a><\/strong> the document points out that Lutherans and Catholics conceive of the local church differently. Lutherans tend to assume that the congregation is a complete local church, while Catholics point to the diocese. Of course, this difference relates to the point above about the different understanding of the necessity of bishops in conceiving of the church. As the document concludes, however, this difference leads to structural patterns that are nevertheless quite similar. Most Catholics\u2019 primary experience of church is in their parish, and most Lutheran bodies are structured with regional synods that are also described as \u201cchurches.\u201d How the difference in theologies and practices are resolved will probably have more to do with responding to the concerns related to authority and teaching,\u00a0but will have to be cognizant of this more basic difference.<\/p>\n<p>The Declaration on the Way describes a strong basis for dialogue moving forward on the topic of the church, and also describes a number of differences that may be church-dividing, or not. One thing that we have discovered is that we are often wrestling with the same difficulties that arise from living a life structured by God\u2019s work in the world, but still effected by the all-too-common structures of sin that we also experience<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The topic of the church remains an issue over which Lutherans and Catholics do not yet fully agree. 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