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I found this delightful marginal addition to Edmund Bishop’s Liturgica Historica<\/em> (New York: Oxford, 1962 edition). Someone is clearly updating the bibliography (the book was originally published in 1918).<\/p>\n

\"2016-09-28-12-16-59\"<\/p>\n

This particular book belonged to Niels Rasmussen, OP,<\/a> as the plate shows, and was sent to him by a Danish correspondent whose work I don’t know. Perhaps Rasmussen added the reference, or maybe Jorgen Rudfeld (Radfeld? not sure about that handwriting) did. I can’t read Danish, and I haven’t tried an automatic translator on the inscription. [Updated: Andrew Casad<\/a> tells me it says, “It is a gift from one of the tertiaries on behalf of all to be followed by another book they’re awaiting from England.” Thanks, Andrew!]<\/p>\n

\"2016-09-28-12-31-08\"<\/p>\n

By the way, the pasted-in\u00a0article (1950) takes a “friars against the monks!” line in its attacks on Dom Moeller, OSB, and, oddly, also on Ralph of Tongres (d. 1403; one might\u00a0think it would\u00a0not be worthwhile to dispute with him). “Ralph of Tongres is still alive in all those, who, conscious and unconscious, prefer the symbols of the past because they are blind for or afraid of those of the present. Even in modern studies the friars are still the scapegoats for everything liturgical which these men dislike; they have become the occasion, if not the cause, of every shortcoming, every augmentation which can possibly be traced to or regarded as still another detail or motive of the decay in late medieval and renaissance liturgy. The historical Ralph is always in the background to attest how wicked and un-Roman it was.” S. A. van Dijk is here to defend the friars from all these calumnies!<\/p>\n

The 1950 article concludes, “With all this one cannot deny Bernard [of Porto]’s evidence that the lessons of Whitsun Eve had been reduced from twenty-four to twelve quia curia aliquando tedio affecta, aliquando negotiis impedita erat<\/em> [because the Curia was affected\u00a0by weariness at times and hindered by business at others]. But Bernard could not imagine that two centuries later someone from Tongres would undertake to lecture pope, cardinals, chaplains, and friars. If he had known it, perhaps he would have added a few words of explanation, because Bernard had what Ralph of Tongres seems to have lacked: a sense of reality and a love of truth.” Whew.<\/p>\n

Unfortunately, this article did not help me much in my quest for theological work on the Litany of the Saints, but it does read a bit like a very academic Daily Show script.\u00a0I wonder if Rasmussen would have sided with van Dijk (friars gotta stick together!), or disagreed with him. Maybe sometime I’ll look it up.<\/p>\n

You don’t even have to go into the archives at Hesburgh Library to find interesting historical debris linking\u00a0to the Liturgical Movement.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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