{"id":31438,"date":"2015-09-28T20:23:52","date_gmt":"2015-09-29T01:23:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=31438"},"modified":"2015-09-28T20:30:54","modified_gmt":"2015-09-29T01:30:54","slug":"expert-papal-mass-numbers-were-largely-exaggerated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2015\/09\/28\/expert-papal-mass-numbers-were-largely-exaggerated\/","title":{"rendered":"Expert: Papal Mass Numbers Were Largely Exaggerated"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-31439 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/crowd.jpg\" alt=\"crowd\" width=\"450\" height=\"253\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 8pt\"><em>An image from the USCCB.org broadcast of the Papal Mass<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The original estimate of attendance at the Papal Mass was upwards of 1.5 million. \u00a0Then, the number became a much smaller 1 million. \u00a0During the broadcasts of the Papal Mass, the numbers floated around were about 800,000. \u00a0So, how many people were there really?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.philly.com\/philly\/news\/pope\/20150929_800_000_at_papal_mass__Better_count_again.html#8PeDwvMgs8KMdDId.99\">On Philly.com<\/a>, professor of crowd science G. Keith Still (<em>I had no idea that such a professorship existed!)<\/em>\u00a0found the number to be much less than the stated estimates:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The rough estimate for the western end of Parkway was performed by G. Keith Still, a professor of crowd science at Manchester Metropolitan University in England.<\/p>\n<p>He relied on an Inquirer photograph taken at 5 p.m. from the Top of the Tower restaurant, on the 51st floor of 3 Logan Square.<\/p>\n<p>Still estimated a density of 3 to 4 people per square meter in the portion of the roadway from Eakins Oval to just past 22nd Street. From there to Logan Square, it thinned out to about 1 or 2 people per square meter, Still estimated after examining the photo.<\/p>\n<p>He also added in crowds in adjacent ball fields and on the north side of the Franklin Institute, where densities appeared to be in the range of 3 to 4 people per square meter.<\/p>\n<p>After adding up all those areas, equivalent to about 11 acres, Still came up with a total attendance in the range of 80,000 to 142,000 for the entire western end of the Parkway.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Still cited exaggerated numbers at the Royal Wedding as how common exaggerated crowd numbers were. \u00a0There were 80,000 tickets distributed for the ticketed area of the Parkway, and as I noted before, some people kept the tickets as a souvenir, rather than attending.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless of the actual number, City of Philadelphia mayor Michael Nutter said that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.philly.com\/philly\/news\/pope\/20150929_800_000_at_papal_mass__Better_count_again.html\">people having a good experience and staying safe<\/a> were what mattered, not numbers:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;That&#8217;s the measure of success, not exactly how many people came or showed up,&#8221; he said. &#8220;We&#8217;ll look at information that gets compiled. We&#8217;ll try to figure it out.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Many attendees reported having a life-changing experience.<\/p>\n<p>After all, Jesus said, &#8220;Where two or three are gathered&#8230;&#8221; \u00a0 I think that it is safe to say that the criteria of Jesus was met.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The original estimate of attendance at the Papal Mass was upwards of 1.5 million.  Then, the number became a much smaller 1 million.  During the broadcasts of the Papal Mass, the numbers floated around were about 800,000.  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