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See earlier posts: part one<\/a> and part two<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Reliable sources out there are sending us things about the new missal text, and it keeps getting curiouser. The Prayer after Communion we\u2019d all hear on roll-out Sunday in the US, according to the planned timeline, is there in English as you\u2019d expect. But then, four pages later, the exact same prayer in Latin appears again, but in English this time it\u2019s an entirely different translation! One of the two English versions makes sense, so at least there\u2019s that. (Plan to go to daily Mass that Thursday to get the good version \u2013 it’s more like what the conferences submitted.)<\/p>\n

You perhaps already noticed in the 2008 recognitio<\/em> text<\/a> of the Roman canon that \u201csuisque omnibus,\u201d which appears once<\/em> in Latin, appears twice<\/em> in the English translations, three lines apart, each time as \u201cand all who are dear to them.\u201d Mistakes happen. But this is odd: the redundancy has been retained in the final text.<\/p>\n

I think I see a translation principle at work here. When the same Latin text appears in two places in the missal, two different English translations are permitted. But when a Latin text appears only once, each repetition in English, because such repetition is not found in the Latin original, must appear in the exact same English wording. Do you think that\u2019s it?<\/p>\n

A Pray Tell<\/em> reader reports that \u201csimili modo\u201d in the Institution Narrative of the various Eucharistic prayers is treated curiously in the final text. In most of the 10 Eucharistic prayers the English is \u201cIn a similar way.\u201d But in two cases the English is \u201cIn the same way.\u201d This fits perfectly with the translation principle discovered above. Same, similar \u2013 homo, homoi<\/a> \u2013 I suppose it doesn\u2019t really matter.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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