{"id":23800,"date":"2014-01-22T06:49:57","date_gmt":"2014-01-22T12:49:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=23800"},"modified":"2014-01-22T06:50:34","modified_gmt":"2014-01-22T12:50:34","slug":"yves-congar-my-journal-of-the-council-part-xxiv-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2014\/01\/22\/yves-congar-my-journal-of-the-council-part-xxiv-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Yves Congar, <i>My Journal of the Council,<\/i> Part XXIV"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Evening, supper with K\u00fcng and Feiner. K\u00fcng, full of intelligence, health, youth and insistent demands. He is extremely critical.<\/p>\n<p>1) About the <em>De S Liturgia <\/em>and the way Martimort has acted. He ought to have begun with proposal that the Canon of the Mass BE PROCLAIMED out loud: <em>\u2018Mortem Domini annuntiabitis\u2019 <\/em>[You shall proclaim the death of the Lord (I Cor 11:26)] . . . But Martimort adopted a tactic of effectiveness with a view to secondary practical results, instead of concentrating on the essential, which would have brought all the rest in its train.<\/p>\n<p>2) Above all about the <em>De Ecclesia <\/em>and Philips. In K\u00fcng\u2019s view, it is full of naiveties and banalities which are absolutely not up to scratch with respect to what intellectual honesty before the facts and the texts, and the necessary dialogue, or simply the inevitable contact with the Others, demands. \u2018What am I going to say to my Protestant colleagues in Tubingen?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>K\u00fcng charges at things, he goes straight ahead like an arrow. He is the exact opposite of Martimort. The latter devotes himself to the \u2018possible\u2019, to the tactical: he is a reformist, he seeks to secure what is possible; K\u00fcng demands insistently, like a revolutionary. I believe that I myself am between the two. I am sensitive to what has ALREADY been done, and that it is fantastic. We have to see WHERE we have come from, the road already travelled. In a year, Philips has taken Tromp\u2019s place, H\u00e4ring and Hirschmann that of Lio, Butler that of Bali\u0107, etc, etc. Everywhere, the <em>Ecclesia <\/em>is in the process of putting the Curia back in its place. So one should see what had been possible and what is possible. The Catholic Church includes ALSO Ottaviani and Parente, Tromp and the archbishop of Benevento.<\/p>\n<p>K\u00fcng does not take into consideration anything other than the exigency of the facts, of the texts, of what they impose as questions and as conclusions. He said: \u2018Ottaviani is in no way a theologian, he knows nothing about the problems presented by the texts and present-day studies, he ought to be replaced.\u2019 Maybe so but, in fact, he was there! And replaced BY WHOM? K\u00fcng told me that this question of replacing Ottaviani as President of the Theological Commission had been raised with the Pope at the same time as the new regulations were proposed. In K\u00fcng\u2019s opinion, a great many of the \u2018experts\u2019, who are strangers to the theological science or rather disciplines of today, ought also to be eliminated. But in the meantime, they were there and they are still there.<\/p>\n<p>Faced with K\u00fcng, I once again realize the fairly horrifying degree to which I myself have been too timid, especially during the preparatory period, but even after that. I content myself with expressing my opinion, but I do not defend it, I do not stay with it. There is, on my part, a health problem: I no longer have the strength. Have I ever had it? In spite of appearances, I have always been at the end of my VERY LIMITED resources. There is also a question of mystique. I believe profoundly in: \u2018Each one has what has been given to him. The servant is quite content to be there, outside in the hallway, and to hear the wedding songs\u2019. There is also the question of destiny: SINCE 1938, I have been UNCEASINGLY under suspicion, pursued, reprimanded, limited, crushed. Finally, there is a question of the extremely keen awareness I have that that some time-lags are necessary and that an active patience has strength. K\u00fcng is to some extent an impatient man. He has to be. It is a dangerous position. He worries me a bit, all the more so in that he is so sensitive to Protestant reactions, that he is successful and that he is surrounded by the prestige of success, and lastly that he has not the support of a community of religious and regular life. As for me, I believe profoundly in time-lags, in the necessary stages. I have SEEN that my conviction is TRUE. I have also seen so much progress made in thirty years! I have such a strong feeling that a huge body, such as the Church is needs to move in a measured rhythm . . .<\/p>\n<p>Of course, I am also aware of WHAT IS MISSING in the schema and in the work of the Council. For years I have realized that at no time has the Word of God been encountered in an entirely new and fresh way. There has not been a REAL return to the sources. There have been good elements of Scripture and Tradition, providing the people of today with more than one intention and one method: but these elements have done no more than improve in some points and in certain details on existing expositions based, essentially, on the classical system alone. Exegetes have played almost no part in the work: those from Jerusalem and the Biblical Institute have been set aside. Nothing will redeem this fault, except perhaps the future. For myself, for a long time, all renewal has seemed to me to be linked with a high-level theological teaching which is truly animated by and imbued with RESEARCH. In Rome, there is no research, except in some peripheral sectors, limited, and purely technical: Byzantine sigillography and <em>alia huiusmodi <\/em>[other things of the kind]. It is by the reform of clerical education that the reform of the Church will really begin. Once that has been achieved, everything will have been gained within one or two generations. But it remains true that we could never give to theology the status that the Protestants give it: it can never be PURE research, without conditions, nor purely personal research, without communion or norms . . .<\/p>\n<p><em>Yves Congar,\u00a0<\/em>My Journal of the Council,<em>\u00a0pp. 369-370. For previous posts in this series, simply enter \u201cCongar\u201d in the search box in the upper right.\u00a0The 1100-page book\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.litpress.org\/Products\/8029\/my-journal-of-the-council.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">can be purchased from Liturgical Press<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>K\u00fcng charges at things, he goes straight ahead like an arrow. He is the exact opposite of Martimort. 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