{"id":20860,"date":"2013-07-30T09:25:57","date_gmt":"2013-07-30T15:25:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=20860"},"modified":"2013-07-30T09:25:57","modified_gmt":"2013-07-30T15:25:57","slug":"liturgical-continuity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/","title":{"rendered":"Liturgical Continuity?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Though it’s a couple of months old, this video of Abbot Michael Zielinski<\/a> of the CDWDS makes some interesting claims for the continuity between Benedict and Francis in terms of their liturgical agendae. <\/p>\n

It might just be spin, of course, trying to manage the revolution that is Pope Francis. On the other hand, it does present one way of applying the typically Catholic “both-and” to what seem to be the vastly different liturgical styles of the two Popes (NB: I’m not posting this as a riposte to the the article by Mark Silk that Anthony posted; I was planning on posting this before that went up).<\/p>\n

One interesting observation the Abbot makes is about the “relational” approach Francis has toward liturgy — not just inter-human relations, but also the relation of the human to God. He celebration style is low key, but clearly seeks to connect on a personal level with the assembly. Many people seem to think that any element of subjectivity in the liturgy represents some sort of failure or capitulation to modernity. But maybe the sense of persona connection that Francis seems to bring to the liturgy answers to a genuine need of people today. Liturgy has always adapted itself (or “organically developed”) in response to the mentality of different eras. Is there any reason that Francis’s “relational” approach, which mirrors the approach of much modern liturgical celebration, might not be an example of salutary adaptation?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Is there continuity between the liturgical visions of Benedict and Francis, or is this just spin control?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":38,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"_wpas_customize_per_network":false},"categories":[28,2224],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20860","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pope-benedict-xvi","category-pope-francis"],"yoast_head":"\nLiturgical Continuity? - Home<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Liturgical Continuity? - Home\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Is there continuity between the liturgical visions of Benedict and Francis, or is this just spin control?\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Home\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2013-07-30T15:25:57+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/pt.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"411\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"90\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Fritz Bauerschmidt\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Fritz Bauerschmidt\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"1 minute\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2013\\\/07\\\/30\\\/liturgical-continuity\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2013\\\/07\\\/30\\\/liturgical-continuity\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Fritz Bauerschmidt\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/6680b6b6c538e041206e13ba3c1a24d9\"},\"headline\":\"Liturgical Continuity?\",\"datePublished\":\"2013-07-30T15:25:57+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2013\\\/07\\\/30\\\/liturgical-continuity\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":244,\"commentCount\":29,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#organization\"},\"articleSection\":[\"Pope Benedict XVI\",\"Pope Francis\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"CommentAction\",\"name\":\"Comment\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2013\\\/07\\\/30\\\/liturgical-continuity\\\/#respond\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2013\\\/07\\\/30\\\/liturgical-continuity\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2013\\\/07\\\/30\\\/liturgical-continuity\\\/\",\"name\":\"Liturgical Continuity? - Home\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2013-07-30T15:25:57+00:00\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2013\\\/07\\\/30\\\/liturgical-continuity\\\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2013\\\/07\\\/30\\\/liturgical-continuity\\\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2013\\\/07\\\/30\\\/liturgical-continuity\\\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Liturgical Continuity?\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/\",\"name\":\"Home\",\"description\":\"Worship, Wit & Wisdom\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#organization\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#organization\",\"name\":\"Home\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/\",\"logo\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2023\\\/09\\\/cropped-BlogHeaderFinal2.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2023\\\/09\\\/cropped-BlogHeaderFinal2.jpg\",\"width\":1340,\"height\":209,\"caption\":\"Home\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\"}},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/6680b6b6c538e041206e13ba3c1a24d9\",\"name\":\"Fritz Bauerschmidt\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2020\\\/06\\\/38.jpg\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2020\\\/06\\\/38.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2020\\\/06\\\/38.jpg\",\"caption\":\"Fritz Bauerschmidt\"},\"description\":\"I am a professor of Theology at Loyola University Maryland and a permanent deacon of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, assigned to the Cathedral of Mary Our Queen.\",\"sameAs\":[\"http:\\\/\\\/homileticdiakonia.blogspot.com\"],\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/author\\\/fbauerschmidt\\\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Liturgical Continuity? - Home","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Liturgical Continuity? - Home","og_description":"Is there continuity between the liturgical visions of Benedict and Francis, or is this just spin control?","og_url":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/","og_site_name":"Home","article_published_time":"2013-07-30T15:25:57+00:00","og_image":[{"width":411,"height":90,"url":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/pt.jpg","type":"image\/jpeg"}],"author":"Fritz Bauerschmidt","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Fritz Bauerschmidt","Est. reading time":"1 minute"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/"},"author":{"name":"Fritz Bauerschmidt","@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/#\/schema\/person\/6680b6b6c538e041206e13ba3c1a24d9"},"headline":"Liturgical Continuity?","datePublished":"2013-07-30T15:25:57+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/"},"wordCount":244,"commentCount":29,"publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/#organization"},"articleSection":["Pope Benedict XVI","Pope Francis"],"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"CommentAction","name":"Comment","target":["https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/#respond"]}]},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/","url":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/","name":"Liturgical Continuity? - Home","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/#website"},"datePublished":"2013-07-30T15:25:57+00:00","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/30\/liturgical-continuity\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Liturgical Continuity?"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/#website","url":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/","name":"Home","description":"Worship, Wit & Wisdom","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/#organization"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/#organization","name":"Home","url":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cropped-BlogHeaderFinal2.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/cropped-BlogHeaderFinal2.jpg","width":1340,"height":209,"caption":"Home"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/"}},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/#\/schema\/person\/6680b6b6c538e041206e13ba3c1a24d9","name":"Fritz Bauerschmidt","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/38.jpg","url":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/38.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/38.jpg","caption":"Fritz Bauerschmidt"},"description":"I am a professor of Theology at Loyola University Maryland and a permanent deacon of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, assigned to the Cathedral of Mary Our Queen.","sameAs":["http:\/\/homileticdiakonia.blogspot.com"],"url":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/author\/fbauerschmidt\/"}]}},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20860","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/38"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=20860"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20860\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":20861,"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20860\/revisions\/20861"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=20860"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=20860"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=20860"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}