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(Based on this recent\u00a0article<\/a> in the <\/em>Chicago Tribune.)<\/em><\/p>\n

Chicago, 1878.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Cardinal Francis George of Chicago had gone through a long 16-hour day of meetings and travel, a day that began at 5 a.m., and it was just about 9 at night. He was tired, with one more meeting to go.<\/p>\n

But as he walked into the parlor for our interview late last week he was smiling and eager. His cheeks were pink, eyes like a coruscation, not bad for a 76-year-old man who was recovering from influenza and was shouldering the awesome responsibility of helping select a Roman Catholic pope.<\/p>\n

\u201cWelcome,\u201d he said, taking my hand, ushering me to a chesterfield beside him. \u201cWe\u2019ve got a lot to talk about.\u201d<\/p>\n

And we did, although I was glad to do most of the listening. We talked of his trip to Rome this week to meet with other cardinals, beginning the process of choosing a successor to Pope Pius IX.<\/p>\n

We talked of the church struggling against an increasingly secular world, and of the crisis of faith that the pope had warned about last year.<\/p>\n

I asked him why journalists, framing the selection of a new pope, can write so easily of arguments for dissolution of the papal states (in which the Pope is the secular ruler of a good portion of Italy) or change in the Holy Office\u2019s approval of slavery in 1866, yet strenuously avoid what is at the root of the church: faith in God.<\/p>\n

\u201cThat\u2019s why you always get it wrong,\u201d said Cardinal George, laughing. \u201cEven when your facts are right, your story\u2019s wrong. It\u2019s not fair to ask journalists to acknowledge the Holy Spirit, is it? But they don\u2019t see religion as a variable, if you like. It\u2019s independent of politics or economics, but they tend to reduce it to what they\u2019re good at: reporting on countries, reporting on corporations. And so that\u2019s the framework, and those frameworks are partially true, but they\u2019re not fundamentally true. \u2026<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s hard always to think from God\u2019s viewpoint, as we bishops do, or from the viewpoint of something larger than the next year or the next month. But I think this kind of event invites us to do that.\u201d<\/p>\n

The great mansion of the archbishop of Chicago on North State Parkway was quite still at that hour, aristocratically beautiful in its silence, all polished and gleaming wood, with art on the walls and yet remarkably simple \u2013 one might speak of a \u201cnoble simplicity.\u201d<\/p>\n

It was time to give him a periodical excerpt that spoke to Pius\u2019s warning of that crisis of faith, a recent essay by Seward B. Collins in Fr. Fletcher’s\u00a0The Second Spring<\/em>. It contained a passage from the Catholic theologian Louis Billot:<\/p>\n

\u201c\u2026 One thing that is being overlooked in all of this is Pius\u2019s statement that the reason why the Church needs someone with more physical strength at the helm is because the faith of the Church is facing what he calls a \u2018grave crisis.\u2019 \u2026 I think he is saying there is something uniquely dangerous in the current situation of the Church and that unique thing is the de facto apostasy of so many within the Church, up to, and perhaps especially including, many members of the clergy and religious.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Billot went on to say that the drumbeat for the church to change its fundamental structure has prompted many to view it through the \u201clens of power and politics.\u201d<\/p>\n

Some argue that liberalizing the church, acknowledging freedom of conscience, accepting separation of Church and state, softening the Church\u2019s harsh condemnation of Protestantism, and perhaps even allowing vernacular in the liturgy, would appeal to more people. Others, like Billot, worry it weakens the church\u2019s ability to evangelize a stridently, militantly secular West.<\/p>\n

Cardinal George acknowledged the pope is concerned about faith, and added that all the cardinals are concerned as well. This will be utmost in their minds when they deliberate in Rome.<\/p>\n

\u201cAlways, the first question is \u2018Does it square with the faith? Will we betray the Lord if we do this?\u2019 And that\u2019s what is hard for (journalists) to understand,\u201d he said. \u201cThe question of the inferiority of women in the natural order and the non-ordination of women, we\u2019re not free to change a sacrament that we believe has come to us from Christ. The same is true of the Catholic state in which error has no rights, we\u2019re not free to change a teaching that flows from the Incarnation and the lordship of Christ. We\u2019re just not free to do it and that\u2019s very hard for some people to understand, because if they want it and believe that it\u2019s a good thing and you can talk that way, then why can\u2019t you do it? Only because you\u2019re fusty and obstructionist and out-of-date \u2026<\/p>\n

\u201cThe larger question: Is there now such a sea change in Western culture that people can\u2019t believe; that they aren\u2019t open to belief?\u201d he asked. \u201cThat therefore you have to be your own god in a way. \u2018You have to do just what you want to do in the way that you want to do it. You have to follow your own dream.\u2019<\/p>\n

\u201cWell, it\u2019s important to follow God\u2019s dream.<\/p>\n

\u201cSo we could say maybe (some) people have lost the gift of faith because we\u2019ve created a society where people can\u2019t believe. It\u2019s impossible \u2014 well, not impossible, never impossible, but very difficult \u2014 to believe because it goes against the grain to say, \u2018I surrender my life.\u2019 Maybe it\u2019s why the divine right of kings, the Catholic state without democratic elections, is in such difficulty because when you\u2019re a loyal subject, that\u2019s what you do. You surrender your life to legitimate authority. Well, faith means you surrender your life to God.\u201d<\/p>\n

As Cardinal George has surrendered, and as have his brothers, who will make that trip to the Vatican this week in what may well be the most important conclave in centuries.<\/p>\n

Their duty: choosing the right pope at a dangerous time.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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