{"id":14128,"date":"2012-04-15T15:13:00","date_gmt":"2012-04-15T21:13:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=14128"},"modified":"2012-04-18T08:40:40","modified_gmt":"2012-04-18T14:40:40","slug":"ecclesiology-of-the-new-missal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2012\/04\/15\/ecclesiology-of-the-new-missal\/","title":{"rendered":"Ecclesiology of the new Missal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Fr. James Dallen is a\u00a0priest of the diocese of Salina, a liturgical scholar,\u00a0retired University professor,\u00a0and author of numerous books on liturgy. He\u00a0has written an essay on the ecclesiology expressed in the new Missal and its current translation. It is posted on the Misguided Missal website.<\/p>\n<p>His\u00a0thesis is this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I see it [the new Missal translation]\u00a0subtly communicating a view of Church, the Counter-Reformation institutional model, that threatens the ecclesiology of communion that is central to both the letter and the spirit of Vatican Council II.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The translation itself, and the way in which it was produced, are presented as examples of how the institutional model is being re-established, to the detriment of the ecclesiology of communion.<\/p>\n<p>It is well worth reading, despite the fact that it covers ground that will be familiar to our regular readers of the <em>Pray Tell<\/em> Blog. What is distinctive is the ecclesiological focus, which he elucidates by reference to Avery Dulles and others.<\/p>\n<p>You can read\u00a0it all <a href=\"http:\/\/misguidedmissal.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/Translation-Ecclesiology-Jim-Dallen-3-6-2012.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">here. <\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0&#8211;rf<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;I see it [the new Missal translation] subtly communicating a view of Church, the Counter-Reformation institutional model, that threatens the ecclesiology of communion that is central to both the letter and the spirit of Vatican Council II.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":28,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1398,31,24,32],"tags":[703,1957,1526],"class_list":["post-14128","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-new-missal-implementation","category-sacramental-theology","category-translation-new-missal","category-vatican-ii","tag-ecclesiology","tag-fr-james-dallen","tag-misguided-missal"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ecclesiology of the new Missal - Home<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2012\/04\/15\/ecclesiology-of-the-new-missal\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Ecclesiology of the new Missal - Home\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"&quot;I see it [the new Missal translation] subtly communicating a view of Church, the Counter-Reformation institutional model, that threatens the ecclesiology of communion that is central to both the letter and the spirit of Vatican Council II.&quot;\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2012\/04\/15\/ecclesiology-of-the-new-missal\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Home\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2012-04-15T21:13:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2012-04-18T14:40:40+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/pt.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"411\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"90\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Other Voices\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Other Voices\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"1 minute\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2012\\\/04\\\/15\\\/ecclesiology-of-the-new-missal\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2012\\\/04\\\/15\\\/ecclesiology-of-the-new-missal\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Other Voices\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/4eec536020900714d992552a4e06f913\"},\"headline\":\"Ecclesiology of the new Missal\",\"datePublished\":\"2012-04-15T21:13:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2012-04-18T14:40:40+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/index.php\\\/2012\\\/04\\\/15\\\/ecclesiology-of-the-new-missal\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":175,\"commentCount\":59,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/praytellblog.com\\\/#organization\"},\"keywords\":[\"Ecclesiology\",\"Fr. 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