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Yesterday I put up a post about the Neocatechumenal Way<\/a>, which included a quote from Sandro Magister detailing some liturgical practices which he (and presumably others) have regarded as problematic.<\/p>\n

Fr. Neil Xavier O’Donoghue has written a response to Magister, and sent it to us. I consider it a “must-read”\u00a0to help us\u00a0have a better informed and more well-rounded discussion here at Pray Tell<\/em>.\u00a0Here’s a bit of it:<\/p>\n

I have personally attended thousands of Eucharistic celebrations in Neocatechumenal communities in the United States, Canada, Ireland, England, Scotland, France, Germany, Poland, Italy, Spain, Estonia, the Dominican Republic, Mexico, Australia, Guam, Saipan, Taiwan and Israel.\u00a0 All of these Eucharists have been in conformity with the relevant rubrics and used the approved liturgical books of the Roman Rite.<\/p>\n

I find it hard to put up with the constant criticisms from Magister and the like who blend some plain untruth with half-truths taken out of context. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

You can read\u00a0the whole thing\u00a0here.<\/a><\/p>\n

Update: <\/strong>Here are some photographs of Neocatechumenal Way liturgies,\u00a0also supplied by\u00a0Fr. O’Donoghue.<\/p>\n

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April 3, 1997 Convivence with 253 Bishops of the Americas on the theme: “Evangelization and the Neocatechumenal Way.”<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
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Pope John Paul II celebrating the Eucharist in December 1988 on the Feast of the Holy Family at the Neocatechumenal Center in Porto San Giorgio (Italy).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

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Then-Cardinal Ratzinger celebrates Mass during his visit to the Redemptoris Mater Seminary in Rome where he delivered a conference on Dominus Iesus on December 16, 2000<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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