{"id":12280,"date":"2011-11-17T19:52:40","date_gmt":"2011-11-18T00:52:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=12280"},"modified":"2011-11-21T10:23:07","modified_gmt":"2011-11-21T16:23:07","slug":"congar-and-van-unnik-on-dominus-vobiscum%e2%80%94et-cum-spiritu-tuo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2011\/11\/17\/congar-and-van-unnik-on-dominus-vobiscum%e2%80%94et-cum-spiritu-tuo\/","title":{"rendered":"Congar and Van Unnik on Dominus vobiscum\u2014et cum spiritu tuo"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Most of us on this blog know the name of Yves Congar but few of us know his debt to <a href=\"http:\/\/portretten.library.uu.nl\/en\/portretten\/vanunnik\/bio.html\">Willem Cornelis van Unnik<\/a> in Congar&#8217;s analysis of the work of the Holy Spirit in the liturgy.<\/p>\n<p>Here are the two important passages in Congar in support of the contention that this dialogue is a prayer between the ordained and the baptized\/confirmed (see the previous <a href=\"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2011\/11\/16\/and-with-your-spirit-3\/\">thread<\/a>). I have inserted &#8220;<strong>[NOTE]<\/strong>&#8221; at the places where Congar cites Van Unnik&#8217;s \u201cDominus Vobiscum: the Background of a Liturgical Formula,\u201d in <em>New Testament Essays: Studies in Memory of T. W. Mansen 1893\u20131958,<\/em> edited by A. J. B. Higgins (Manchester: Manchester University Press, 1959), 270\u2013305). <strong>UPDATED:<\/strong> I have uploaded a <a href=\"http:\/\/dl.dropbox.com\/u\/7331043\/VAN%20UNNIK.pdf\">scan<\/a> of my marked copy of the article.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>I do not wish to speak here about the third \u2018sacrament of initiation\u2019, the Eucharist, but would like to observe that the Greek word <em>teleiosis,<\/em> \u2018perfection\u2019, would be more suitable in this context than the Latin word <em>initiare,<\/em> \u2018to begin\u2019. I shall deal with the part played by the Holy Spirit in the Eucharist and the changing of the holy gifts into the body and blood of Christ as well as our communion in the Lord\u2019s body and blood in Volume III of this whole work. Those final chapters are, I believe, extremely important. We have already seen above how a spiritual space or framework for celebration is created by the Spirit by means of an exchange of a promise and a bearing witness to his presence: \u2018The Lord be with you\u2019 \u2014\u2019 And with your spirit\u2019. <strong>[NOTE]<\/strong> This is a sign of the reciprocity that constitutes the full truth of the relationships between the Christian community and the minister who is the president and the pastor of that community.<\/p>\n<p>This mutual relationship, which expresses the constant aspect of the activity of the Spirit, can also be found in the process of the ordination of ministers. It may even be because of this that it takes place in the celebration. There was also a theological meaning in the early tradition and practice of the Church that we need to recover. The most important moment in the process of ordination was the liturgical act, but, in the early Church, the process in fact began before the celebration. The community took part in an election which, like all the acts that regulated the life of the Church, had to be \u2018inspired\u2019. In this election, the talents or charisms of the one elected were recognized. The consecrating bishop took up this intervention on the part of the community. In the consecration of another bishop, all the bishops present were ministers of the Spirit within the epiclesis of the entire assembly. . . .<\/p>\n<p>Yves Congar, <em>I Believe in the Holy Spirit: VOLUME I: The Experience of the Spirit<\/em> (New York: Crossroads, 1983), 106\u2013107.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>. . . The Eastern tradition teaches as firmly as the Western Church that only the priest can do this, but this does not mean that he can do it alone, that is, when he remains alone. He does not, in other words, consecrate the elements by virtue of a power that is inherent in him and which he has, in this sense, within his control. It is rather by virtue of the grace for which he asks God and which is operative, and even ensured, through him in the Church.<\/p>\n<p>It is worth recalling at this point the meaning of the exchange of words between the one who presides over the celebration and the assembled people: \u2018The Lord be with you\u2019 \u2013 \u2018And with your Spirit\u2019. This does not mean simply \u2018and with you\u2019. It means \u2018with the grace that you received through ordination for the common good; we are asking now for that grace to be made present in this celebration.\u2019 <strong>[NOTE]<\/strong> The &#8216;power&#8217; received at ordination and the making present of the gift of the Spirit, the ordained celebrant and the community or the <em>ecclesia<\/em>a are united in the celebration of the Eucharist. In the Eastern rite, the epiclesis is spoken in the plural, indicating clearly that the whole community invokes the Spirit. The Roman canon, however, also has \u2018Memores offerimus\u2019 and \u2018Supplices te rogamus\u2019 in the plural. 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