{"id":12276,"date":"2011-11-16T20:51:04","date_gmt":"2011-11-17T01:51:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=12276"},"modified":"2011-11-16T20:51:04","modified_gmt":"2011-11-17T01:51:04","slug":"and-with-your-spirit-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2011\/11\/16\/and-with-your-spirit-3\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;And with your spirit&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Pray Tell<\/em> reader Jonathan Day calls our attention to the latest piece in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thinkingfaith.org\/index.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Thinking Faith<\/a>, the online journal of the British Jesuits.\u00a0 Jack Mahoney explores the meanings behind the new response &#8220;And with your spirit&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>An explanation of <em>Et cum spiritu tuo<\/em> as referring to the grace of the Holy Spirit in the ordained celebrant seems to me fanciful and contrived&#8230;I wonder also if part of the modern popularity of this interpretation in  terms of the grace of priestly ordination is because it can help to  propagate the difference between priests and people which the Vatican  Council tried so much to diminish and which others are now regrettably  attempting to re-establish.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For the full text, please visit: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thinkingfaith.org\/articles\/20111116_1.htm\" target=\"_blank\">\u2018And with your spirit\u2019? 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