{"id":1172,"date":"2010-03-03T08:18:10","date_gmt":"2010-03-03T13:18:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=1172"},"modified":"2010-12-17T22:00:55","modified_gmt":"2010-12-18T04:00:55","slug":"ecumenical-sensitivity-in-the-rcia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2010\/03\/03\/ecumenical-sensitivity-in-the-rcia\/","title":{"rendered":"Ecumenical Sensitivity in the RCIA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The <em>lex orandi<\/em> of the Roman Catholic Church says something very important about her <em>lex credendi<\/em> in the case of the reception of baptized Christians into full communion. The rite for reception, including its introductory directions, has something to tell us about the RC church\u2019s belief in ecumenism.<\/p>\n<p>No. 475, for example, says this: \u201cAny appearance of triumphalism should be carefully avoided.\u201d One should consider \u201cthe ecumenical implications\u201d of the rite. No. 479 says this: \u201cOne who was born and baptized outside the visible communion of the Catholic Church is not required to make an abjuration of heresy, but simply a profession of faith.\u201d By this is meant the Nicene Creed (recited together with the congregation) plus this: \u201cI believe and profess all that the holy Catholic Church believes, teaches, and proclaims to be revealed by God.\u201d Period.<\/p>\n<p>The suggested General Intercessions (no. 496) state that the candidate \u201chas already been united to Christ through baptism\u201d and prays for \u201call who believe in Christ and for the Communities to which they belong, that they may come to perfect unity.\u201d Note the wording \u2013 <em>not<\/em> that those separated from the RCC may join her, but that all the Christian Communities might come into unity. (I\u2019ve heard about a TV program called \u201cHome to Rome\u201d \u2013 has anybody told them that they\u2019re misrepresenting the Roman Catholic faith?!) Another intercession prays for the Church or Communion of the candidate, \u201cthat it may always grow in knowledge of Christ and proclaim him more effectively.\u201d Note the wording \u2013 <em>not<\/em> that it will come back to the Catholic Church.<\/p>\n<p>Ecclesiologists of the strict observance will insist that Lutherans and Methodists and such folks aren\u2019t a <em>church<\/em>, they\u2019re an <em>ecclesial community<\/em>. Only those of us with apostolic succession and communion with Peter are a church, properly speaking. I suppose they have a point \u2013 and they could cite the distinction between \u201cChurch\u201d and \u201cCommunion\u201d in that last intercession. But I have it on good authority that it\u2019s OK to use \u201cchurch\u201d to refer to other Christians. When Cardinal Walter Kasper was at St. John\u2019s to give a <a href=\"http:\/\/www1.csbsju.edu\/sot\/events\/Diekmann_2009.htm\">Diekmann lecture<\/a>, in a friendly lunch and discussion with our SOT community, he said that \u201cof course we use <em>church<\/em> in ordinary conversation. Such distinctions are for technical theological discourse.\u201d Well that\u2019s a relief. If it\u2019s good enough for him, it\u2019s good enough for me. Now I can use <em>ELCA<\/em> and <em>UMC<\/em> in good conscience without feeling obligated to substitute <em>Evangelical Lutheran Ecclesial Communion of America<\/em> or <em>United Methodist Separated Community<\/em>. This will make it a lot easier to announce in the parish bulletin where next year\u2019s prayer service during the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity will take place.<\/p>\n<p>Every so often we\u2019ll get a comment on this blog to the effect that \u201cProtestants should join the real Church\u201d or \u201cWhy should the True Church compromise with heresy?\u201d We promptly delete all such comments. I guess you could say that we\u2019re zealous about upholding the true teachings of the Church and stomping out error.<\/p>\n<p>awr<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No. 475 of the Rite of Christian Initiation says this: \u201cAny appearance of triumphalism should be carefully avoided.\u201d One should consider \u201cthe ecumenical implications\u201d of the rite. 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