{"id":11439,"date":"2011-09-13T14:47:58","date_gmt":"2011-09-13T19:47:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/?p=11439"},"modified":"2011-09-13T21:45:47","modified_gmt":"2011-09-14T02:45:47","slug":"st-john-chrysostoms-message-to-liturgists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2011\/09\/13\/st-john-chrysostoms-message-to-liturgists\/","title":{"rendered":"St. John Chrysostom’s message to liturgists"},"content":{"rendered":"

We, liturgists, are a unique bunch. If you\u2019re like me, the details of liturgy are very important to you. It also helps to be somewhat obsessive compulsive. I know I\u2019m this way because I really do believe the old axiom we all learned in Liturgy 101\u2014lex orandi, lex credendi<\/em>\u2014basically interpreted, \u201cas we pray, so we believe.\u201d The way we pray forms our belief.<\/p>\n

But any good liturgist will know that liturgy is not the end-all, be-all of our lives as disciples. Yes, it\u2019s rightly the source and summit (Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy, 10). But it\u2019s not the entire activity of the Church (CSL, 9).<\/p>\n

Today is the Memorial of Saint John Chrysostom<\/a>, the \u201cgolden-tongued\u201d late 4th-century preacher and bishop of Constantinople. He gave us, liturgists, a good reminder about the end-purpose of liturgy. It\u2019s about lex vivendi<\/em>\u2014forming us in how we live. Sixteen centuries later, Karl Rahner, SJ, would develop this when he wrote about the \u201cliturgy of life\u201d\u2014how the liturgy of the altar is intrinsically, primordially present and part of the living and dying, the \u201cbreathing of death and sacrifice,\u201d found in all of human history (\u201cConsiderations on the Active Role of the Person in the Sacramental Event,\u201d in Theological Investigations, vol. 14, trans. David Bourke, Seabury Press, p. 169). The Holy is present and celebrated first in human life. Praising God in our worship makes no sense unless we also recognize God\u2019s presence in everyday life, especially in the darkest depths of human life.<\/p>\n

Scripture constantly reminds us of this (Mt 25:31-40; Is 58:1-9), and so does Saint John Chrysostom today. Thanks to Rocco Palmo of Whispers in the Loggia<\/a> for giving me this reminder several years ago by sharing Saint John Chrysostom\u2019s meditation on Matthew 25.<\/p>\n

Would you honor the body of Christ? Do not despise his nakedness; do not honor him here in church clothed in silk vestments and then pass him by unclothed and frozen outside. Remember that he who said, \u201cThis is my Body\u201d, and made good his words, also said, \u201cYou saw me hungry and gave me no food\u201d, and, \u201cin so far as you did it not to one of these, you did it not to me\u201d. In the first sense the body of Christ does not need clothing but worship from a pure heart. In the second sense it does need clothing and all the care we can give it.<\/p>\n

We must learn to be discerning Christians and to honor Christ in the way in which he wants to be honored. It is only right that honor given to anyone should take the form most acceptable to the recipient not to the giver. Peter thought he was honoring the Lord when he tried to stop him washing his feet, but this was far from being genuine homage. So give God the honor he asks for, that is give your money generously to the poor. God has no need of golden vessels but of golden hearts.<\/p>\n

I am not saying you should not give golden altar vessels and so on, but I am insisting that nothing can take the place of almsgiving. The Lord will not refuse to accept the first kind of gift but he prefers the second, and quite naturally, because in the first case only the donor benefits, in the second case the poor gets the benefit. The gift of a chalice may be ostentatious; almsgiving is pure benevolence.<\/p>\n

What is the use of loading Christ\u2019s table with gold cups while he himself is starving? Feed the hungry and then if you have any money left over, spend it on the altar table. Will you make a cup of gold and without a cup of water? What use is it to adorn the altar with cloth of gold hangings and deny Christ a coat for his back! What would that profit you? Tell me: if you saw someone starving and refused to give him any food but instead spent your money on adorning the altar with gold, would he thank you? Would he not rather be outraged? Or if you saw someone in rags and stiff with cold and then did not give him clothing but set up golden columns in his honor, would he not say that he was being made a fool of and insulted?<\/p>\n

Consider that Christ is that tramp who comes in need of a night\u2019s lodging. You turn him away and then start laying rugs on the floor, draping the walls, hanging lamps on silver chains on the columns. Meanwhile the tramp is locked up in prison and you never give him a glance. Well again I am not condemning munificence in these matters. Make your house beautiful by all means but also look after the poor, or rather look after the poor first. No one was ever condemned for not adorning his house, but those who neglect the poor were threatened with hellfire for all eternity and a life of torment with devils. Adorn your house if you will, but do not forget your brother in distress. He is a temple of infinitely greater value.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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